An independent voter explains why they chose a moronic, oligarcho-fascist demagogue over Joe Biden (c. November 2020) [Day 58]
An independent voter explains why they chose a moronic, oligarcho-fascist demagogue over Joe Biden (c. November 2020) [Day 58]
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I can’t tell the difference between red and blue genocide.
Blue opposes in words, but aids by supplying weapons while saying they can only be used for defense against other countries but not enforcing that restriction.
Red says fuck the Palestinians, genocide is fine.
There's also the implication that Blue does have a line, somewhere. Probably related to polling numbers.
President Joe Biden Sets "Red Line" For Netanyahu (2024, Colorized)
Blue is only ok with 1 external genocide and there was a possibility of pressuring Blue to be a decent human. Red is starting an internal genocide while supporting 2+ external genocides. Red would start another genocide just to be contrarian. With no other options less genocide is a fairly simple choice over more genocide. Not choosing less genocide allows more genocide. Congrats the blood is up to your knees and rising instead of just your ankles.
Well, we can't make you see the difference if you don't want to.
Of course there’s a difference if you really get into it, but much like the two main parties here, I don’t see the point.
Again, we can't make you see the point if you don't want to.
You appear to be looking to not tell the two apart, and I don't particularly care to go into all the reasons why this mentality is stupid and reductive as hell to the point of being actively poisonous to the ends you're working to achieve. Because I've had this conversation before, and I literally can't make you see the point in looking into the differences when you don't want to. And, imo, that's the exact mentality that got us here, because why bother voting less bad when ThErE's No DiFfErEnCe BeTwEeN tHeM.
Perfect is the enemy of better, and chasing perfection instead of improving things is only going to burn it down. Which is also what a number of people who share your point of view want. And unfortunately, now is the time of monsters.....
I’m trying to make a point about how similar they are, I don’t think you’ve understood that, don’t see the point in arguing with a leftist. We have a similar issue.
Exactly. In my experience it works like this:
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Blue maga folks make a post bitching again about left-wing voters staying home - precisely what those left wing voters explicitly and repeatedly warned the centrist dems they would do if Biden didn't stop weapons shipments to Israel.
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In that post, blue maga folks will say, "well, for some reason all the leftists who spoke against Biden have mysteriously disappeared. We never hear from them again. I guess they were all just Russian plants."
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In the comments, they receive numerous comments from leftists who didn't vote for Kalama, or in my case, someone who did vote for Kamala, but still fully understands why people didn't vote for her.
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Blue maga downvotes the Hell out of the leftist post instead of engaging in good faith. They downvote until their posts cannot be seen anymore.
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Blue maga goes on pretending that the anti-genocide leftists have all just mysteriously disappeared.
Leftists don't let Nazis get into power, even if it means dealing with corporatists some more years.
You're not a leftist. You did nothing to avoid the farthest of the right-wing from gaining possibly absolute power. You did nothing to keep things leftward, or even center right - you just allowed the fascists to take over without a struggle.
You're not the resistance, you're not a helper, you're not leftist; you're nothing.
Fun fact: the KPD refuses to work with the SPD becauae they view the SPD as "social fascists". Since the KPD and NSDAP combined is a majority, that means the parties had to work with either one of the two to form a governement. Eventually a coalition government was formed with the NSDAP with hitler as chancellor, and the rest is history.
Oh wow, so it really is just a speedrun 1920s/30s Germany.
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Don't forget: 4.5. Leftists get moderated for saying Biden supported genocide (with the reason given for the moderation being "misinformation") and receive a ban.
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