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The only thing Biden is "crushing" is thousands of Palestinian civilians under the rubble of their former homes.
Trump urges Israel to 'finish the job.'
https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b
Oh I got another one.
Biden is crushing it, and by "it" I mean my hope that Trump will be a one-term president.
Yes, and you attacking Biden is helping stop Trump how?
Biden doesn't have to run! Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides. Continuing to prop up a corpse that is doing less genocide than the other option would isn't the virtue that you think it is.
Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides.
You can't even come up with a name, but yes, let's vote for 'Theoretical Better Candidate."
Leftist started grumbling about Biden's inadequacy right after he barely won the general. They started yelling after he sold out railway workers. They started sounding alarm bells once his polling started to trail Trump's during the latter's multiple concurrent criminal cases. They started screeching once the genocide started on Oct 7.
For you to sit here now and throw your hands up saying "well its too late! we don't have an alternative!" does nothing other than show how ignorant you have been these past few years. Your head has been in the sand, and this backslide into fascism we're seeing now is the only logical conclusion. The leftists were right about Biden all along, and that is becoming increasingly clear as time goes on.
You can’t even come up with a name, but yes, let’s vote for 'Theoretical Better Candidate."
Pritzker. Easy. And?
Pretty much any blue state governor would've been a strong option about a year ago is Biden had endorsed them during the presidential primary.
Yeah, I was one of the leftists calling Biden a good for nothing fuckhead for the past 3 years. And then new year's day 2024 happened, and like every leftist I started focusing on preventing a fascist from winning the general election. At first that meant pushing for other candidates in the primary, and now it means helping Biden win.
Meanwhile, the politically aware centrists who had been cooperating with the left for the past three years, continued to try and prevent a Democrat presidency in 2024 because Both Sides Bad
Every name that's been floated polls worse and has SOME form of baggage attached, or is a complete and utter unknown.
"Democracy is when you shut your mouth and accept the positions (genocide) the party gives to you."
I don't see how an investigation into which of the ruling class' two political parties will do more genocide on Palestinians has anything to do with me calling out your dystopian and perverted view of democracy. No one is claiming that Biden will be worse for Palestinians.
It's not democracy, it's the current electoral system of the USA. If you think the USA is a democracy you're a bigger liberal than I thought
Not everything is about defeating Trump. Some of us have a moral compass.
For example, I will not ignore, deny, or downplay an ongoing genocide just because it would suit my presidential preference.
Additionally, now is the best time to attack Biden, because he is a huge underdog after his horrific debate performance. Attacking Biden is pushing the DNC to change candidates before it's too late. Supporting Biden at this juncture is just helping to elect President Trump.
That's the most privileged moral compass imaginable.
Actual people in America have died because of Trump's policies. Not just due to Covid, but because they were denied abortions, or because the people with guns knew the cops wouldn't care if a transperson got killed.
What are you going to say when Trump has the right to deputize a million or so Kyle Rittenhouses?
That you made the tough call?
You are acting like my joke comment on a Lemmy meme is going to sway the election lol
Look I get it, you will support Biden until he loses, then you will blame people like me for his loss. It's a comfy position to hold, you never have to examine your own positions- just blame others.
We both agree Trump is horrible. You dont have to remind me. My beloved grandmother, the best person in my life, died of covid during the Trump presidency. I will never forgive him, and I certainly will never vote for him.
But just because I fucking hate Trump doesn't mean I'm going to deny reality. Actual people die because of Trumps policies, that we agree on. But Gazans are actual people too, and you seem to be denying that.
Your playing the 'just kidding, bro' card?
Get some new material.
Yes it was a joke, but no I wasnt "just kidding"
Joe Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide.
But you will aid genocide just because it suits your presidential preference. Filthy liberal.
"I'll help Trump get elected and bomb the West Bank! That'll show Biden!"
You apathetic centrists put your political teams over actual people's lives. You treat politics like it's a fucking wrestling match and you buy into the DNC's kayfabe.
Did you respond to the wrong comment? I'm confused.
No, I'm responding to the right comment. You're the liberal who'll risk a Trump presidency in the name of your hatred of Biden, right? The one who buys into DNC lies that they care more about winning the presidency than they do about having Biden as candidate?
So accurate criticism of Biden is now "risking a Trump presidency"? You're suggesting that I should stop talking about an ongoing genocide?
And by criticizing Biden's genocidal actions, this makes me a centrist, a liberal, and even worse, a DNC believer? I am so confused.
Its fascinating how you bluemaga people can claim to be the defenders of democracy and free speech, yet your words betray the fact that you hate both concepts.
Your actions have consequences, liberal. You have the right to free speech even when you use it to subvert democracy, and I have the right to tell you to shut up. I know Daddy Elon says free speech means no consequences for what you say, but he's a dipshit and so are you. People are allowed to tell you to shut up. Criticise Israel in a manner other than telling people not to vote against fascism. It's easy, look, I'll show you:
Israel is committing a genocide and Biden is ethically obligated to stop supplying the IDF and to commit to military action against the IDF's bases of operations.
See? I criticised Israel, I acknowledged genocide, and I laid out concrete action the US can take against Israel. I even criticised Biden! How about that! What I didn't do, is tell people not to vote against fascism. Now, I know for a liberal like yourself, the idea of opposing fascism is quite repugnant, but that's because you're a shithead.
Let's allow Trump to bomb the West Bank and see if it pisses off Biden /s
Oh right, the war in Gaza is completely Biden's fault and not the product of decades of politics coming to a head in a way the US can't explicitly control. I think I saw Biden out there personally shooting Palestinian children in the face 🙄
You're right, it's not all Bidens fault. There are many evil actors in this conflict. But that doesn't mean Bidens hands are clean.
Hes the one supplying all the bombs, going so far as to hide humanitarian reports and circumventing US law so the munitions can keep flowing.
Hes the leader of the nation which is vetoing UN peace agreements.
He is spreading pro-genocide propaganda. Remember when he went on live television to address the nation and said that he saw pictures of 40 beheaded babies? What a horrific thing to lie about.
If the Nuremburg laws would apply to US presidents, then each one of these actions would be legal grounds to convict Joe Biden for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
All of these things, but still Biden does not directly have the power to end this conflict. Blaming him for it happening as if he's the one crushing Palestinians under the rubble of their houses is dishonest.
Reagan called up Israel one night and told them to stop their assault on Lebanon. Israel stopped in less than 24 hours.
HW Bush called up Israel and ended that conflict overnight.
What makes you think Biden does not have the same power?
And if a phone call doesn't work, he could stop sending bombs. He could stop providing political cover. Instead of handing Israel billions of taxpayer dollars, he could impose economic sanctions like we did to Russia.
Joe Biden could turn Israel into a militarily vulnerable pariah state. What makes you think that this isn't enough leverage to end the genocide?
There's no magic button that ends this conflict, except the one that lies on Netanyahu's desk. Israel isn't dependent on the US in the way that you're trying to make it sound. If the US pulls away from Israel, it creates a vacuum that US's adversaries are chomping at the bit to fill.
They won't suddenly go broke. They won't suddenly be disarmed. They won't suddenly decide the war isn't worth it. They will take money and weapons from other nations who want their influence in the middle east and the only thing that will change is the US losing that influence.
Look, I'm not saying that Biden's hands are clean either. The US as a governmental body is complicit in this heinous war.
What I am saying is that you are woefully naive if you think a phone call could end this. That phone call already happened. It was international news. Netanyahu laughed in Biden's face.
They will take money and weapons from other nations who want their influence in the middle east and the only thing that will change is the US losing that influence.
If the US stops supporting Israel, which other nation will step in and send them 1500lb bombs, highly advanced targeting systems, tens of thousands of artillery shells (theres a worldwide shortage), propelling charges for howitzers, hellfire missiles, disposable shoulder fired rockets, and a plethora of small arms? Be specific.
There are only 4 or 5 nations with the ability to supply the weaponry that Israel needs. China and Russia have been opposed to the genocide since the beginning, so unless they take a dramatic self-destructive turn, this only leaves western nations. Do you think Germany, Japan, or South Korea would defy the US in order to support Israel?
That phone call already happened. It was international news.
Can you provide a source for this?
The only story I'm aware of is how Biden's aides have been leaking how hes having confrontational phone calls with Netanyahu. This is obvious spin in order to placate the anti-genocide sentiment in this country. If you actually believe this narrative then you are the woefully naive one.
The call where Biden urged a ceasefire and Netanyahu completely ignored it? I think you think the US has more power in this situation than they actually do.
Could Israel continue this war without US aid?
The US provides about 1% of Israel's GDP in military aid and Israel already exports weapons and ammo it doesn't need. Who would provide American-centric weaponry is irrelevant to the question of whether the war would stop.
To add to that, it literally doesn't matter who steps in to aid Israel, as the aid itself is less important than the potential ally and the strategic act of robbing the US of influence in the middle east. You think Russia or China wouldn't stoop to changing their position on a massacre to get a step up politically? Two countries currently hosting genocides of their own?
A magic stop button doesn't exist for the US. We're clearly not going to agree on that so this is where our conversation ends. Goodnight.
I forget, what did the other candidate say on the debate about this a few days ago?