Banned from [email protected] for Gatekeeping despite not Gatekeeping and never commented in the space.
Banned from [email protected] for Gatekeeping despite not Gatekeeping and never commented in the space.
Was banned on a totally different instance and community despite never commenting in the community.
I suspect I was banned for questioning the narrative in this thread yesterday:
I am a trans person and have no issue with trans people expressing who they are. The mods and admins of blahaj frequently use Gatekeeping as a false umbrella ban for any user they want to get rid of. This is also discussed in yesterday's thread by some users.
The owners of that 196 space have proven they are unable to let sleeping dogs lie and are hellbent on tearing down all other instances in a tribal war, and have decided to start lurking in other spaces and preemptively banning people like reddit mods.
This is not fair moderation practices, it's a petty tit for tat because abuse in their community was called out yesterday.
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I am going to ask here because I couldn't do it in the other one before it was locked.
Hypothetical scenario
- An unmoderated instance allows people to make hate speech comments
- That instance also has interesting communities, so defederation is not possible
- An admin sees this and pre-emptively bans the people making hate speech comments
Would you be okay with way of moderating? I'm asking because it seems like the "despite never commenting in the community" argument gets brought up a lot, but is that really that good of an argument?
Good illustrative post.
In the end, and I am sure you are aware, you pose the wrong question. “Would you be okay with that way of moderating” isn’t the question because it ignores the dynamics of federation. Ada owns the server. If you’re not okay with the moderation, you move servers, and a huge community like 196 has already shown it will move mountains to stay on LBZ.
So, the question OP should ask is “do I care enough about this space to apologize or attempt to make ammends?”
196 has already shown it will move mountains to stay on LBZ.
Is this even true
yup. blaze explained it well.
I didn't realize they moved the community to blaha I thought they went to shitjustworks
you must have been thinking of something entirely different yeah
https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=196&order=active_month
The most active community is the new one people had to move to after the old 196 mods tried to move the community to [email protected]
Ada owns the server.
Which means everything she does is correct. Of course.
Nope! Bad faith as always. My reasoning for Ada being correct is found throughout a huge number of other comments and statements I have made about her, and you found the one that ✨you’re right,✨ doesn’t directly evidence Ada being in the right and instead was written about OP and their experience. :)
Would you like a pat on the head or a gold star? Since you want to treat me like I am a child?
Bad faish is just PJ's method of breathing at this point.
If .world was doing this to Tankies they'd be celebrating how they need to protect their favorite instance.
Bad faish is just PJ’s method of breathing at this point.
Considering you've made not just one but a whole slew of arguments which relied on points which have been explicitly and plainly pointed out prior to you to be incorrect, from a factual point of view, I think this is the thief accusing another of sticky fingers.
My reasoning for Ada being correct is found throughout a huge number of other comments and statements I have made about her,
All of which boil back down to the point made here.
Would you like a pat on the head or a gold star? Since you want to treat me like I am a child?
You get a gold star for bootlicking, if you want one so badly.
Oh this is the other thread you were talking about, the crowd sure flipped on you here huh!
it can’t help that this time OP provided literal examples of the kind of just hurtful, cringy, broad and unnecessary comments they are going to post about trans people. it’s a pretty distasteful look when it actually shows up.
"The crowd" of Blahaj apologists was never on my side. Hence why they bullied a trans user into leaving the Fediverse.
Man, "blahaj apologists", "they", you realize how that sounds right? Honestly the way some of you who've been banned have reacted, in your case multiple posts and dozens of replies, "they" really dodged a bullet I think.
Man, “blahaj apologists”, “they”, you realize how that sounds right?
Like a community?
Honestly the way some of you who’ve been banned have reacted, in your case multiple posts and dozens of replies, “they” really dodged a bullet I think.
Of course, "they" dodged a bullet by harassing a trans person for wrongthink and driving them off the Fediverse. I'm so glad "they" dodged a bullet.
Careful with your wording, the people being banned aren't gatekeeping, that's just the bullshit excuse used and then if it's ever refuted, well then the record says they're a bigot and who cares what they think?
Considering every different space has different rules, it is unfair to force the loosely interpreted rules of one space on a totally different space.
That does not answer the scenario I presented above.
You not wanting to read does not change me answering your question.
Considering every different space has different rules, it is unfair to force the loosely interpreted rules of one space on a totally different space.
If you want the rules of another instance changed you can ask the owners of that instance.
Lurking/banning users mods don't like for bullshit reasons is objectively bad policy and shows PTB
Autobans are reddit mod behavior.
I was curious why you're being so evasive.
This is called gatekeeping people's identities. That is what you're doing. You are engaging in bigotry so yeah, of course you're going to get banned from a queer safe space. It doesn't matter how trans or gay you might be, if you're practicing bigotry then you're part of the problem. You're part of the reason these safe spaces exist to begin with.
If you can't deal with the idea that someone might have an identity that you can't understand, then you need to grow up.
Stop perpetuating the cycle of abuse.
The fact that someone who's supposedly trans isn't able to understand that they are continuing the exact cycle of abuse that cis people have been pushing onto trans people is very sad. How lucky you must be to have never been doubted or told that your identity is fictional.
I am a trans woman.
I have no issue with Neopronouns, they/them/it, even the humans who identify as like Xi/Xit I'm fine with even though it's a bit weird imo.
But non human gender identities is where I draw the line
I'm sorry, but I don't like transgender people being looped in with people who want to be animals, mythical creatures, and aliens. It comes off as disingenuous when these people try to insert themselves into trans spaces to get validation while trans people IRL are being put in camps.
Ironically the admins have decided what the definitons of transgender are, and gatekeep that definiton.
If you think bullying trans people into these weird guilt games is productive then maybe you should grow up.
I noticed you took out the condescending "sweetheart" this time so i will too.
So if someone writes racist comments on an unmoderated community, they shouldn't be banned from another instance until they write racist comments on that instance as well?
So when does blahaj start using automoderator to ban everyone who's posted to a specific instance?
Because that's where these autoban policies lead to.
I post on the instance and community we're currently in as much as you do. A lot of people do. None of them have been automatically banned.
It's almost like people are making a boogey man out of internet moderators trying to have a safe space for people being affected by people like Rat in a Hat and PugJesus, and they they complain that they are the victims of their Freeze Peach being violated.
God, I can't believe I violated Blahaj's safe space.
When was the last time I posted on Blahaj, again?
You sound very South Park Republican right now.
I can't help but notice I'm still waiting.
If I’m accused of violating a safe space, generally, that requires some violation of that space.
I'm waiting.
You sound very South Park Republican right now.
No, really, when was the last time I posted on Blahaj?
If I'm accused of violating a safe space, generally, that requires some violation of that space.