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Sorry, I'm not taking your distraction bait.
If you are so strong in your convictions, so honest in your statements, and so solid in your belief of what you're doing is right, why is it so difficult for you to admit the reality of what you're doing? Even if I don't agree with what you're doing and why, I don't see why you dance so hard around the fact that plurality voting, with your actions to convince people not to vote for Biden, are helping Trump?
Why is that so hard for you to admit?
only votes for trump help trump.
That is factually untrue in the plurality voting system we have.
asserting it doesn't make it so.
That's true. Asserting doesn't make it so, its actual definition makes it so:
"In single-winner plurality voting (first-past-the-post), each voter is allowed to vote for only one candidate, and the winner of the election is the candidate who represents a plurality of voters or, in other words, received more votes than any other candidate. In an election for a single seat, such as for president in a presidential system, voters may vote for one candidate from a list of the candidates who are competing, and the winner is whichever candidate receives the highest number of votes. " source
this is just storytelling. it's not a natural law.
this is just storytelling.
Now you're denying what the laws regarding the voting system is the USA?
it’s not a natural law.
Its state law in 48 out of the 50 states.
"48 out of the 50 States award Electoral votes on a winner-takes-all basis (as does the District of Columbia). For example, all 54 of California’s electoral votes go to the winner of the state election, even if the margin of victory is only 50.1 percent to 49.9 percent." source
the existence of a winner-take-all system does not entail that a non-vote or even a vote for some candidate besides trump or biden helps trump. only a vote for trump helps trump.
You're moving the goalposts. What was being discussed is if a vote would have gone to Biden, but becomes a non-vote, then that absolutely helps Trump under plurality voting.
Check their comment history, I'm not convinced they're even a real person.
I wasn't sure either. I was curious how far the script would go. I think I finally go to the end of it with its ad hominem attacks finally arriving.
it's unprovable what might happen if a vote, known to have been cast one way, were cast some other way. this is known as a "counterfactual" and they are, tautologically, unprovable.
it’s unprovable what might happen if a vote, known to have been cast one way, were cast some other way.
Oh really?
Scenario 1: Baseline
- candidate A receives 10 votes
- candidate B receives 9 votes
- Outcome: Candidate A wins under plurality
Scenario 2: Two voters for Candidate A are convinced not to vote (non-vote) or vote for a candidate other than A or B
- candidate A receives 8 votes
- candidate B receives 9 votes
- Outcome: Candidate B wins under plurality
Proof enough?
"oh no! Biden lost the whole election because of a meme on something called Lemmy!" Really?
If you base your vote or non-vote off of memes on a social media site...
Again, you dance away and refuse to admit. I will say this is helpful though. Any post in the future only needs to be pointed to this flow of conversation and see where you stand. Every refusal you remove any ambiguity of miscommunication. Your willful ignorance is on full display. Thank you.
Gurl I been saying the same shit for months. Ain't nothing changed. Are you new here? Just ask @[email protected]
Oh cool then it should be nothing for you to say it right now, right?
What you're doing is helping Trump win by helping convince people not to vote for Biden under our plurality voting system, right? Just say yes that you understand that.
I can't make people do anything. That's on them. I'll continue to post informative news articles and political memes well past the election.
I'm posting political news articles from mostly liberal media sources... in a politics channel. Am I breaking the channel rules?
You're unable to admit it even when you asked specifically to be called out on it.
Do your feet get tired from all that dancing to avoid being honest?
Gurl I been saying the same shit for months.
Yeah, and people have been pointing it out for months.
"if I just litter a little bit, it doesn't really matter"
This is a discussion forum on a meta meme about online discourse about voting choices.
You are in a discussion with someone about your choice, but the point of the thread is for readers as well.
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