I don't think reddit started out as a for profit company. iirc it started as some dudes sharing links. I knew a site like that back in the day. Link aggregator and forum made by one dude because he liked the community.

Oh they're absolutely tankies, dessalines website is crystal clear on that. To me this is simply a test of the fediverse. If it works as intended, the devs political orientation shouldn't matter. We'll see.

That blue light thing is pseudo-science. Bodily activity though, yup, that's a big one.

It seems that those of us who look beyond the hype are a minority. Lemmy has potential but also serious problems. Bots are an obvious one, meta and co invading sooner or later is another. Tankies are something that we need to keep talking about and keep an eye on any politically influenced moderating, esp. on lemmy.ml

Indeed. Email is a good analogy to explain the federation principle, not to argue about the finer details. But going along with it, spam email is being blocked. Whole IP ranges are blocked ("defederated") by spam filters, because otherwise, good grief...

We absolutely do not need meta. The fediverse is doing just fine. There must be exactly zero tolerance for their likes. Nothing, absolutely nothing good can come from meta if you have been paying any attention at all. They do not benefit users, they milk them.

As the saying goes...

KILL IT BEFORE IT LAYS EGGS

I mean sure, good news is always welcome, but if I'm bombarded by a website by cookie request, download the app AND fullscreen newslettersignup popups... I'm out. Jesus christ.

The downvoting is part of the joke (:

We have socialism in europe and it's pretty great. Just leave us alone with forced upon communism before we're technologically ready.

:'|

Exactly. Those are the kinds of personalities that can commit atrocities.

At least lemmy wasn't started by tankies... oh wait.

See my response to the other person.

This is worse than sycophants making excuses for Huffman. Dessalines compiled this list to make an argument, how are you sweet talking this reality? This isn't some exercise in political science, this is a dude making the point that the Uyghur genocide is not happening. There is no discussion with such an entity. There are many subtleties to be discussed about any of these topics, but once you're in that level of conspiracy, there's no subtlety, this has nothing to do with critical thinking or questioning authority. This is blatant arrogant vile brainwashed shit, and nothing else. The result you will find in Lemmygrad.ml. Study this instance closely and strive to not become that. Free speech does NOT mean hatespeech should be tolerated. By being neutral you are supporting the wrong side. Inaction is action. Let me put it this way: when two Nazis sit down on a table with eight other people and these people say nothing, there are ten Nazis sitting on that table.

What is the consequence of that and are there worthy alternatives?

Read for yourself what he writes on his website. It's pretty grim shit. https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/socialism_faq.md#did-mao-kill-millions-of-people

Conspiracy? One of the devs has a website where he literally openly denies the Uyghur genocide, Tiananmen square massacre, "Mao did nothing wrong", "Ukrainians are Nazis", denies every single critique of USSR and China, and a whole lot of other vile shit. Read for yourself: https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/socialism_faq.md#did-mao-kill-millions-of-people

This is the real test of the fediverse. Can software written by a piece of shit like that exist without being influenced by their garbage political views?

I think it's possible and I like Lemmy to thrive but it's important to keep an eye out for tankies and to not close your eyes to the reality of who started this.

While that is true, I anticipate that as a user you can choose to block all of that, just like I could have a reddit experience without r/conservative and without ads. We will always be able to find our niches, the size of which is determined by how many people share your values.

That being said, it's indeed up to us to make sure the largest communities don't end up on some weird fork that has ads.

Ahh! Thank you very much!

The way it works in practice is that the largest instances are where most people go. What is stopping those devs from imposing their views on the community, e.g. by censoring?

You leave reddit because the ceo introduces shitty pricing but you don't mind the main devs being literal fascists?