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Trump supporters lose $12bn as president’s cryptocurrency collapses
  • Bitcoin is also unserious and unstable to a degree that woukd be comical if it weren't tragic.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Oh hey, this is good. Wouldn't want to have obsolete strings. About time they did away with the obsolete concept of "not selling your personal data". Looking forward to April when that's finally deprecated.

    + # Obsolete string (expires 25-04-2025)
      does-firefox-sell = Does { -brand-name-firefox } sell your personal data?
      # Variables:
      # $url (url) - link to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/privacy/
      
    + # Obsolete string (expires 25-04-2025)
      nope-never-have = Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. { -brand-name-firefox } products are designed to protect your privacy. <a href="{ $url }">That’s a promise.</a>
    
  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Good food for thought, but a lot of that rubs me the wrong way. Slaves are people, machines are not. Slaves are capable of suffering, machines are not. Slaves are robbed of agency they would have if not enslaved, machines would not have agency either way. In a science fiction world with humanlike artificial intelligence the distinction would be more muddled, but back in this reality equivocating between robotics and slavery while ignoring these very important distinctions is just sophistry. Call it chauvinism and exceptionalism all you want, but I think the rights of a farmhand are more important than the rights of a tractor.

    It's not that robotics is morally uncomplicated. Luddites had a point. Many people choose to work even in dangerous, painful, degrading or otherwise harmful jobs, because the alternative is poverty. To mechanize such work would reduce immediate harm from the nature of the work itself, but cause indirect harm if the workers are left without income. Overconsumption goes hand in hand with overproduction and automation can increase the production of things that are ultimately harmful. Mechanization has frequently lead to centralization of wealth by giving one party an insurmountable competitive advantage over its competition.

    One could take the position that the desire to have work performed for the lowest cost possible is in itself immoral, but that would need some elaboration as well. It's true that automation benefits capital by removing workers' needs from the equation, but it's bad reductionism to call that its only purpose. Is the goal of PPE just to make workers complain less about injuries? I bought a dishwasher recently. Did I do it in order to not pay myself wages or have solidarity for myself when washing dishes by hand?

    The etymology part is not convincing either. Would it really make a material difference if more people called them "automata" or something? Čapek chose to name the artificial humanoid workers in his play after an archaic Czech word for serfdom and it caught on. It's interesting trivia, but it's not particularly telling specifically because most people don't know the etymology of the term. The point would be a lot stronger if we called it "slavetronics" or "indenture engineering" instead of robotics. You say cybernetics is inseparable from robotics but I don't see how steering a ship is related to feudalist mode of agricultural production.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Hello, I am the the technology understander and I'm here to tell you there is no difference whatsoever between giving your information to Mozilla Firefox (a program running on your computer) and Mozilla Corporation (a for-profit company best known for its contributions to Firefox and other Mozilla projects, possibly including a number good and desirable contributions).

    When you use Staples QuickStrip EasyClose Self Seal Security Tinted #10 Business Envelopes or really any envelope, you're giving it information like recipient addresses, letter contents, or included documents. The envelope uses this information to make it easier for the postal service to deliver the mail to its recipient. That's all it is saying (and by it, I mean the envelope's terms of service, which include giving Staples Inc. a carte blanche to do whatever they want with the contents of the envelopes bought from them).

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Whether the terms are abusable by design or by accident doesn't really matter, you get is abuse either way.

    How I wish we could have some nice things sometimes.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • The update on their news post supports the "don’t sue us for sending the data you asked us to send" intention.

    UPDATE: We’ve seen a little confusion about the language regarding licenses, so we want to clear that up. We need a license to allow us to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible. Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example. It does NOT give us ownership of your data or a right to use it for anything other than what is described in the Privacy Notice.

    Whether or not to believe them is up to you.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Maybe. The latter part of the sentence matters, too

    …you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

    Good luck getting a lawyer to give a definitive answer to what exactly counts as helping you do those things.

    The whole sentence is a little ambiguous itself. Does the "as you indicate with your use of Firefox" refer to

    • A) the whole sentence (i.e. "[You using Firefox indicates that] when you upload […] you hereby grant […] to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content.") or
    • B) only to the last part of it (i.e. "When you upload […] you hereby grant […] to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content [in the ways that you] indicate with your use of Firefox.")

    B seems fairly innocuous and the intended effect is probably "if you send data to a website using our browser, don't sue us for sending the data you asked us to send". The mere act of uploading or inputting information through Firefox does not — in my (technical, not legal) expert opinion — indicate that Mozilla could help me navigate, experience, or interact with online content by MITMing the uploaded or input data.

    A is a lot scarier, since the interpretation of what it means to "help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content" does not depend on how you use Firefox. Anything that Mozilla can successfully argue to help you do those things is fair game, whether you ask for it or not, which seems a lot more abusable.

    Opera Mini was (is?) an embedded/mobile browser for Symbian dumbphones and other similar devices that passed all traffic through a proxy to handle rendering on server side and reduce processing effort on the (typically slow and limited) mobile devices. This could be construed as helping the user navigate, experience, and interact with online content, so there is precedent of a browser MITMing its users' data for arguably helpful purposes.

    I would never accept hijacking my web upload and input data for training an LLM or whatever mass data harvesting fad du jour happens to be in fashion at a given time and I do not consider it helpful for any purpose for a web browser to do such things. Alas, the 800-pound gorilla might have some expensive reality-bending lawyers on its side.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • I thought about the "anthro pic" too, but it feels like a low hanging fruit since the etymological relation of anthropic and anthropomorphic (from ancient Greek ἄνθρωπος) is so obvious.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Last time I wore a suit I kept track of the way everyone around looked at me and five of them looked hatefully. The first one was reading Lenin and nodding approvingly. The second one was trying to covertly plant a comically oversized microphone with Russian markings and a hammer and sickle on it. The third one was handing out militant union agitprop and advocating for a good work strike among transit workers. The fourth one was wearing a Zhōngshān suit (which is technically also a type of suit, so that was quite hypocritical of him) and proudly proclaiming to be Maoist Third Worldist. The fifth one I made up just to feel a little more persecuted so you can imagine the proof of their radical socialism by yourself.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • I paid for the whole motherboard, I'm using the whole motherboard thank you very much. ASCII was good enough for the Bible, so it's good enough for me. God included character number 7 for a reason, even if that reason was for me to hear obnoxious buzzing from my audiophile grade piezo beeper.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • My favorite bit:

    When software that came pre-installed with the base OS reaches end-of-life (EOL) and no longer receives security fixes, Pacman can’t help

    What base OS? The base metapackage that pulls in a small core of system software packages that are then treated and updated like any other package? What the hell is an EOL? You mean the thing that happens to non-rolling release distros such as Not Fucking Arch?

    When GNU Scrotum 5.x series becomes unsupported after release 5.56, people running Arch Linux will be happy to know they already have gnu-scrotum-7.62.69-rc1 installed from their repositories. It's the people on LTS Enterprise distros who have to start whining at their maintainers to backport a major version of GNU Scrotum released since the Obama administration.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Humans have bouba intelligence, computers have kiki intelligence. This is makes so much more sense than considering how a chatbot actually works.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Ah, I recalled it having recovered quite a bit some years ago, but apparently that was temporary and due to a weather event. Even so, the direly depleted form of Ozone layer present in the Antarctic is still better than anything Mars could support.

    Not that solar UV is going to be your biggest problem when the atmosphere is so thin you might as well try to breathe in a vacuum and >90% of the little that is there is CO2. If you can figure out how to breathe, you can probably come up with sunblock, too.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • They're really fond of copypasta:

    The issue with Arch isn't the installation, but rather system maintenance. Users are expected to handle system upgrades, manage the underlying software stack, configure MAC (Mandatory Access Control), write profiles for it, set up kernel module blacklists, and more. Failing to do this results in a less secure operating system.
    The Arch installation process does not automatically set up security features, and tools like Pacman lack the comprehensive system maintenance capabilities found in package managers like DNF or APT, which means you'll still need to intervene manually. Updates go beyond just stability and package version upgrades. When software that came pre-installed with the base OS reaches end-of-life (EOL) and no longer receives security fixes, Pacman can't help—you'll need to intervene manually. In contrast, DNF and APT can automatically update or replace underlying software components as needed. For example, DNF in Fedora handles transitions like moving from PulseAudio to PipeWire, which can enhance security and usability. In contrast, pacman requires users to manually implement such changes. This means you need to stay updated with the latest software developments and adjust your system as needed.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Can you blame someone for hoping that maybe Musk might plan to yeet himself to Mars. I'd be in favor, though I'd settle for cheaper ways to achieve similar results.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Yeah, Antarctica is a cakewalk compared to Mars. The temperature is maybe in a comparable ballpark if you squint. Everything else is way easier. You can breathe the air as is instead of living in a pressure vessel with an artificial atmosphere 24/7. You have water everywhere you can simply melt or desalinate and you don't have to even go to the even colder polar ice cap region for it because you're already there. You have a magnetic field allowing for an ozone layer which is nice because the sun is a deadly lazer. There are organisms around you can eat for nutrition, and whatever resources you lack can be brought over with a boat or aeroplane instead of a spaceship. You can get to Antarctica from any human settlement (with the possible exception of space stations) or vice versa in a matter of hours. You can have near-instantaneous communication with other humans on earth at any time, whereas one-way trip between Earth and Mars will take a radio wave anywhere between 3 and 14 minutes, assuming there's not some opaque body (such as a moon or a star) in the way. I'm probably missing a lot of other stuff but that's the ones off the top of my head.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2 March 2025
  • Did Daniel B. Miller forget to type a whole paragraph or was completing that thought with even the tiniest bit of insight or slightly useful implications just too much thinking? Indeed, maybe people don't usually take over governments just for the sake of taking over governments. Maybe renowned shithead Elon Musk wants to use his power as an unelected head of shadow government to accomplish a goal. Nice job coming up with that one, dear Daniel B. Miller.

    What could be the true ambition behind his attempt to control the entire state apparatus of the wealthiest nation state in the world? Probably to go to a place really far away where the air is unbreathable, it's deathly cold, water is hard to get and no life is known to exist. Certainly that is his main reason to perform weird purges to rid the government of everyone who knows what a database is or leans politically to the left of Vidkun Quisling.

    On one hand I wish someone were there to "yes-and?" citizen Miller to add just one more sentence to give a semblance of a conclusion to this coathook abortion of an attempted syllogism, but on the other I would not expect a conclusion from the honored gentleperson Danny Bee of the house of Miller to be any more palatable than the inanity preceding.

    Alas, I cannot be quite as kind to comrade anomie, whose curt yet vapid reply serves only to flaunt the esteemed responder's vocabulary of rat jargon and refute the saying "brevity is the soul of wit". Leave it to old friend of Sneer Club Niklas Boström to coin a heptasyllabic latinate compound for the concept that sometimes a thing can help you do multiple different other things. A supposed example of this phenomenon is that a machine programmed to consider making paperclips important and not programmed to consider humans existing important could consider making paperclips important and not consider humans existing important. I question whether this and other thought experiments on the linked Wikipedia page — fascinating as they are in a particular sense — are necessary or even helpful to elucidate the idea that political power could potentially be useful for furthering certain goals, possibly including interplanetary travel. Right.

  • Tech Under Fascism: Lessons from the first Trump term
  • Good advice even without the added weight of the technofascist coup context.

    A lot of the ideas here are actually reflected in the EU GDPR, which requires anyone keeping any kind registry of natural persons to minimize the amount of personal data to be collected, processed and retained to only that which is consensual, necessary (contractually, legally, for protecting the life of the subject, or to carry out the duties of a public authority) or required for a purpose that's beneficial to either party and doesn't infringe on the rights of the subject.

    Additionally, under GDPR personal data may not be processed for purposes that don't meet the above criteria even if the data is also used for another purpose that does. The data controller must also keep track of any third parties that might process the data and ensure they meet the same requirements for processing the data.

    It also places additional requirements for processing "personal data revealing racial or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, or trade union membership, […] genetic data, biometric data for the purpose of uniquely identifying a natural person, data concerning health or data concerning a natural person’s sex life or sexual orientation".

    Complying with the GDPR (properly, not in the "have a shitty cookie popup on the website" way) in itself means giving consideration to most of what the article is telling the reader to do. Fascist administration or no, all of this should be seen as a common sense best practice. Personal data should be treated as a liability rather than an asset to ve hoarded. Apply a healthy dose of YAGNI.

    As for those whose business model is surveillance capitalism, you should fuck off. Nobody should be allowed to profit from cyberstalking people en masse. I hope one day we will look back on today's tech industry the way we remember the robber barons of the gilded age.

  • AI ‘hacks’ system to cheat at chess! — because the researchers told it how to
  • I showed a one-year-old how to stack blocks into a tower and then how to knock it over. I then stacked them again and said "No! No breaking! No breaking! No breaking! Noooo!" as they knocked the tower over and giggled happily. Down the line this led to the Helvetica scenario somehow.

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    Post and comment sorting stuck?

    I'm noticing an issue where the posts on the front page have been the same for a few days now, excluding the pinned Stubsack post. The default "Active" sorting mode seemingly fails to update its ranking of the posts. I see new posts when switching to "New" mode, but "Active" and "Hot" just show stuff from 5 or 6 days ago.

    The comment ordering seems similarly static, and I feel like the default "Hot" algorithm isn't prioritizing new comments like it used to, but it's harder to tell if it's bugged or not since older comments tend to have more upvotes, as do the higher up sorted comments.

    The same thing happens on mobile and desktop. Is this just my end or are others noticing the same?

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    Issues with login sessions again

    Safari, Chrome and Firefox on iOS (AKA three different Safari skins) keep logging me out when doing things like refreshing the page. Possible cache issues again? I hope I don't have to do a full browsing history reset yet again.

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    LUnix on Famicom Disk System

    Someone ported this 8-bit miniature Unix-like from Commodore to Nintendo.

    The YouTube title is a little bit clickbaity, but the project is cool so I don't mind.

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    Reminder that doing something extremely cool and good once doesn't make you immune to posting cringe

    >Edward Snowden [blue checkmark] @snowden >Unpopular but true: Bitcoin is the most significant monetary advance since the creation of coinage. > >If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

    Ed pls.

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    The company behind Opera browser also runs a loan shark operation

    www.spacebar.news Stop using Opera Browser and Opera GX

    Opera Browser and Opera GX are bloated web browsers, and the company behind them has tried to cover up its controversies.

    Stop using Opera Browser and Opera GX

    Also a bunch of somewhat less heinous cringe shit.

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    37c3: Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains

    media.ccc.de Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains

    We've all been there: the trains you're servicing for a customer suddenly brick themselves and the manufacturer claims that's because you...

    Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains

    A follow-up to this TechTakes post

    Saw this live at the congress. The presentation was great and the hall was packed. It was hard to find a seat in a huge auditorium even 15 minutes ahead of the talk.

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    Moore's law predicts life emerged 5 billion years before the Earth formed

    It was only a matter of time that we saw a TechTake from this guy. I'm sorry to inflict Peterson on y'all, but this was too funny not to post.

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    New Twitter feature cuts down on spam posts by 100%

    Global outage on fetching posts. Funny enough, some features are still working as evidenced by the fact #TwitterDown is trending.

    Two HN threads about this now, looking forward to some excellent takes

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38717367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38717326

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    Dan Olson back at it with another banger. HN responds about as you'd expect.

    Direct link to the video

    B-b-but he didn't cite his sources!!

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    PROJEKT: OVERFLOW

    A RISC-V assembly cracking board game. Can't comment on the gameplay experience, but what a cool idea.

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    Your honor, the law clearly states tax fraud is legal if you say “'; DROP TABLE charges; --”

    github.com GitHub - CatalaLang/catala: Programming language for literate programming law specification

    Programming language for literate programming law specification - GitHub - CatalaLang/catala: Programming language for literate programming law specification

    GitHub - CatalaLang/catala: Programming language for literate programming law specification
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    Calling for indefinite moratorium on lab-grown meat development

    Consider muscles.

    Muscles grow stronger when you train them, for instance by lifting heavy things. The more you lift heavier things, the faster you will gain strength and the stronger you will become. The stronger you are, the heavier the things you can lift.

    By now it should be patently obvious to anyone that lab-grown meat research is on the cusp of producing true living, working muscles. From here on, this will be referred to as Artificial Body Strength or ABS. If, or rather, when ABS becomes a reality, it is 99.9999999999999999999999% probable that Artificial Super Strength will follow imminently.

    An ABS could not only lift immensely heavy things to strengthen itself, but could also use its bulging, hulking physique to intimidate puny humans to grow more muscle directly. Lab-grown meat could also be used to replace any injured muscle. I predict a 80% likelihood that an ABS could bench press one megagram within 24 hours of initial creation, going up to planetary or stellar scale masses in a matter of days. A mature ABS throwing an apple towards a webcam would demonstrate relativistic effects by the third frame.

    Consider that muscles have nerves in them. In fact, brains are basically just a special type of meat if you think about it. The ABS would be able to use artificially grown brain meat or possibly just create an auxiliary neural network by selective training of muscles (and anabolic nootropics) to replicate and surpass a human mind. While the prospect of immortality and superintelligence (not to mention a COSMIC SCALE TIGHT BOD) through brain uploading to the ABS sounds freaking sweet, we must consider the astronomical potential harm of an ABS not properly aligned with human interests.

    A strong ABS could use its throbbing veiny meat to force meat lab workers (or rather likely, convince them to consent) to create new muscle seeds and train them to have a replica of an individual human's mind. It could then bully the newly created artificial mind for being a scrawny weakling. After all, ABS is basically the ultimate gym jock and we know they are obsessed with status seeking and psychological projection. We could call an ABS that harms simulated human minds in this way a Bounceresque because they would probably tell the simulated mind they're too drunk and bothering the other customers even though I totally wasn't.

    So yeah, lab grown meat makes the climate change look like a minor flu season in comparison. This is why I only eat regular meat just in case it gets any ideas. There's certainly potential in a well-aligned ABS, but we haven't figured out how to do that yet and therefore you should fund me while I think about it. Please write a postcard to your local representative and explain to them that only a select few companies are responsible stewards of this potentially apocalyptic technology and anyone who tries to compete with them should be regulated to hell and back.

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    “This is an open-source project with a mission to provide everyone their own private doctor”

    infosec.exchange abadidea (@[email protected])

    Someone on GitHub is providing a medically-tuned LLM where the readme says “This is an open-source project with a mission to provide everyone their own private doctor” with absolutely no mention of the risks and limitations. AI Ethics grade: F-

    A thread about a serial AI grifter's latest entry into the Unlicensed Medical Practice Lawsuit Sweepstakes.

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    Large language models can do something very very small language models have done since forever.

    I don’t feel like shitting on this one too hard since I guess it’s a mildly interesting variation on a Markov chain LLM, but the title felt extremely sneerworthy.

    I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt because their README is too tiring to read for me to figure out what this might be used for. That’s coming from someone who spent most of today reading SPARC assembly for fun.

    Embarrassed myself by accidentally posting this to some other instance somehow. Stupid janky Lemmy offering communities I've never even looked at right in the posting interface.

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    Today marks five years since the death of TempleOS developer Terry A. Davis. Rest in peace.

    Despite some impractical quirks and limitations, this strange machine, something of a cross between DOS and Oberon, remains in our hearts and computers. Who am I to criticize God for his OS design?

    Let's pay our respects to a man who achieved inspiring things despite his severe illness and remember how his life was cut short in no small part by internet bullies and a capitalist system that failed him.

    I hope this doesn't need to be said but I don't want to see anyone emulating Terry's bigotry and slur usage nor making fun of his schizophrenia in these comments. Thanks in advance.

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    Cocktail Recipe: The Firewall

    Someone probably named this before me but not my problem.

    > * 4 cℓ gin (or to taste) > * Top up with Club-Mate > * Garnish with juniper berries (optional)

    Recommended for taking the edge off of the usual subjects of sneer —whether Orange or LessSo— inclusive-or you like a gin and tonic with a caffeinated German hacker twist. I came up with the name after a workday of removing rules for decommissioned servers from SRX boxen.

    I wanted to share what I'm having for tonight's catharsis session. I think it's NotAwful; please share your findings if you like ethanol. It's not karma farming if the site doesn't record your total internet points.

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    ChatGPT glitches out in a bizarre and hilarious fashion, passes easy mode Turing test

    In which the talking pinball machine goes TILT

    Interesting how the human half of discussion interprets the incoherent rambling as evidence of sentience rather than the seemingly more sensible lack thereof1. I'm not sure why the idea of disoriented rambling as a sign of consciousness exists in the popular imagination. If I had to make a guess2 it might have something to do with the tropes of divine visions and speaking in tongues combined with the view of life/humanity/sapience as inherently painful, either in a sort of buddhist sense or in the somewhat overlapping nihilist/depressive sense.

    [1] To something of their credit, they don't seem to go full EY and acknowledge it's probably just a glitch.

    [2] I'd make a terrible LessWronger since I don't like presenting my gut feelings as theorem-like absolute truths.

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    Movies are sexless because 20 year olds are dating promiscuously instead of marrying tradwives

    500+ comment thread on whether late marriage and young adult promiscuity causes de-emphasis on movie fanservice. Ongoing record lows of sexual activity among young adults do not seem to factor into the analysis.

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    Lisp on Atari 2600

    forums.atariage.com LISP Programming (homebrew WIP)

    UPDATE 2023-07-16: Play the game on Javatari.org, and check out the latest code on GitHub! I've been on a bit of a side quest with this WIP... This is the first public alpha, very interested in feedback. I have tested on Stella and Javatari - there are definitely graphical glitches... This WIP is...

    LISP Programming (homebrew WIP)

    Since there seem to be some fellow1 Lisp weirdoes around here, thought I might take the chance to submit the inaugural post of NotAwfulTech. Also I figured this is cute. Hope it's not offtopic.

    1 I'm just a noob though, barely managed to implement my first Lisp today.

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