Well that's one way to ruin my day
Well that's one way to ruin my day
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So… for those of us who were adults on 9-11, this format is disturbing.
For most of us who aren't American, this format is funny.
More people died per day from COVID than this attack. More people have died from gun violence since this attack. America has a ton of problems, stop holding onto this attack so tightly for some reason.
as an american, or just anyone paying attention; you are spot on.
It wasn't the people who died. It was the fact that the US was attacked by a foreign power.
We can fuck up our own shit fine. But if somebody else is fucking up our shit... then we get salty.
Unless Russia is rigging elections. That is a-ok, right?
"Rigging elections" may be a bit hyperbolic, but you get the point.No you don't. You want to tell yourself, but you get mad at what the media conglomerate tells you to get mad about. You don't give a fuck that somebody else fucks up your things until it becomes chosen to be popular political rage target then you rage at it
To me 911 signified a change in the world. My awareness of global politics got supercharged, and the world seemed to turn into shit all of the sudden
Yeah because before then, Americans were still very isolated. The only “bad stuff” going on was across an ocean one way, or an ocean the other way. Suddenly most Americans actually realized they live in a big world that holds more than just America.
This is cold pressed lemmy. shlurp it up everyone. Updoots and whatnot
What are you hanging onto?
Oh, the fantasy that other people’s feelings and opinions don’t matter as much as your own?
For those of us who were in middle school on 9/11, this is hilarious.
Yeah — I get it.
Eh, I was, and I am undisturbed. I honestly find it incredibly hard to believe that any 40+ year old netizen could find any meme format actually disturbing.
If you lost your parents on that day too, I think you’d find it disturbing as well.
That is true, I likely would. But I would know that internet meme formats are cross-platform and freedom of expression dominates the internet as a whole over other priorities. So, I wouldn't be able to do anything about it, and it wouldn't be a great idea to try.
Oh wait… so I don’t have the same freedom of expression because I was orphaned on 9-11?
No, just have enough life experience to know when using it makes any sense.
The level of self righteousness here is through the roof.
Life experience: in one day I received more than you ever possibly will. And I pray you never go through what I went through.
Consider me othered.
Othered from what? Liberal democracy and freedom of speech? Good luck.
I’ve honestly never met more oppressive and less compassionate people than the ones here after I wrote a single comment that showed how brittle all you little babies are when confronted with the complexities of this planet.
Enjoy your funny little worlds.
Yes, it is disturbing that asshole was president.
He stole that election fair and square.
Jesus.... It's been 22 years. Get over it.
Who are you talking to?
Jesus clearly.
Did he run out of cheeks to turn?
He’s comeback to clap some.
It's been over 22.3 years; we're allowed to laugh about it now.
You think it's funny boy? Stop laughing rightmeow
Let me know when your parents get murdered by terrorists and I’ll find it funny too, okay?
The real terrorists are the ones who went into the Middle East after 9/11
Yeah — that makes sense.
Seems like you're being sarcastic. Would you like to elaborate how 45,000+ civilian deaths in Afghanistan wasn't an act of terror?
Actions have consequences.
Ok yup you're actually just an asshole. Good to know the people who are offended by 9/11 jokes are people who I would prefer to offend.
In other words: murdering 3000 people should surely not have consequences.
If you can’t understand that it does, you’ll be an actual grown up.
Tell me - if a terror attack murdering 3,000 innocent people justifies the murder of 45,000 innocent people, how many terror attacks does the murder of 45,000 innocent people justify?
Your logic is caveman level stupid. Continuously murdering each other's civilians in the name of payback or consequences will never end.
It’s funny that you being up logic.
It would have mean that you were following the thread.
My claim: The Bush meme template is tasteless.
That’s all I’ve been suggesting.
Reason: living relatives of the thousands of victims find it painful.
Evidence: personal experience
That’s it.
But just to suggest that a meme template that might be offensive to others
Imagine an image of a man raping a woman and he had a joyful smile on his face. The tagline: When I get my final in at 11:59pm and the assignment closes at midnight
Pretty sure some people would find that offensive?
Please name the Afghani people who attacked the U.S. on 9/11. Unless you think those consequences should be killing people who had absolutely nothing to do with it. 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Shouldn't the consequences have involved Saudi Arabia? As someone who was orphaned by Saudis on 9/11, shouldn't you be upset that we went to war with Afghanistan and not Saudi Arabia?
It’s a very bizarre rabbit hole.
The Saudiee surely funded Binladen if we are to believe any of the official story.
And it’s regrettable that Bush allowed them to get off the hook.
And later some Saudi prince murdered Jamal Khashoggi.
All shit from beginning to end.
I’m bored as fuck of this conversation.
Use the template or not.
I’m not going to because it’s distasteful to the relatives of the Americans murdered in the attack. You won’t see me using any templates of smart bombs murdering innocent people in Afghanistan or the Middle East because that too would be tasteless.
I’m glad I got under all these little babies skin though. I’m one person with 300 downvotes for a single comment.
What I learned from this is the Lemmy is filled with a bunch brittle fucking crybabies.
Sure thing. It's not society's job to tiptoe around your trauma. That's for you to deal with.
Wait… no trigger warnings ever? Awesome.
You’re like a snake enjoying a dessert of its own tail.
Is 9-11 some Canadian 7-11?
nah, some of us were making fun of this moment even back then.
Eh if you watched a tower fall, anywhere, and laughed, probably consider some shit.
Im all in to dark humor but there's a gulf to laughing at nsfl stuff while it's happening live.
This is not laughing about the towers falling. This is laughing about the Bush administration's terrible reaction to it.
It was easy to make fun of for people who hadn’t lost their parents that day.
You have said this at least three times. Did you lose your parents on 9/11 or are you just speaking on behalf of others?
And if you lost your parents on 9/11, I would think you would appreciate people making fun of Bush not doing shit about it for minutes when he should have been out of that room and acting immediately.
I was an adult on 9/11. I am an American. I watched the second plane hit live on TV.
Bush being told that it happened and sitting there like the moron he is for a long time before excusing himself is not part of the tragedy. It is absolutely something to be mocked. And this is funny.
I was orphaned on that day. It’s not funny for me. But I think it’s okay it’s funny to you. But I think if our positions were reversed you wouldn’t find it quite so funny.
Did you read what I wrote? Because I don't think you did. The only reason I can think of that you would find mocking George W. Bush on 9/11 offensive is if you voted for him. And if you did, I think we can disregard what you have to say.
I hated him with a passion every single day throughout his entire tenure. Hanging Chad’s?? I opposed the opportunistic invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq so hard I was literally photographed by newspapers.
Smug, self-righteous, and wrong in every way — you have a litmus test for humanity that smells like the mutual admiration society.
I have literally been pepper sprayed my cops at protests against fascism since then.
How dare you.
Honestly, stranger in the internet, you have zero fucking idea.
Hey, it's not my fault you are castigating people for mocking George W. Bush. That's what you're doing and that's how I dare.
It’s a meme because it’s an iconic moment.
It’s not a person. That’s the whole point of memes.
Sorry to school you in this, but one again, you are wrong.
I'm pretty sure George W. Bush is, in fact, a person. And yes, it was an iconic moment. An iconic moment of George W. Bush acting like an idiot and an asshole. Why you think he deserves to be protected from being mocked I don't know.
Double down all you like. It’s the moment. Enjoy being wrong, brittle, little, sis, white male.
It kinda seems like you might be the brittle one here.
And that’s pretty much the ancient schoolyard taunt, “I know you are but what am I?” Pretty sure we’re done here.
Please explain what is offensive about mocking George W. Bush on 9/11. Why does that hurt you? All you can say is 9/11 made you an orphan. That sucks, but it doesn't explain why you find mocking George W. Bush on 9/11 when he did something extremely stupid and unhelpful is offensive to you. What he did (or rather didn't do) is the thing that should be offensive to you.
If you have sensitives, you should work through them on your own or in counseling. Maybe you're not ready to view memes/jokes like this one, it's okay to keep scrolling without sharing your personal trauma. I appreciate your perspective but it is very unique.
Are you ready to view one in which the body of Mathew Shepard is shown dangling from the fence with the words: me at the end of a very hard week
If the majority of people would react a certain way, that's the social norm. Your personal reaction to seeing Bush's face on 9/11, after 22 years, is just not the norm, nor anyone else's responsibility. This is not a graphic image, and it was not addressed to you specifically.
So… the majority of people in the South of the USA are racists, fascists, Magaheads. Should we consider that the Norm?
No?
So we cannot use the tiny sample of Lemmings as a norm. Just saying.
Norms aren't right/wrong. You are on lemmy viewing this image, that's your population. And that's what you should be considering when offering your perspective.
You're being so heavily downvoted because people here don't agree with you. Not that anyone is right/wrong.
Tastelessness is wrong. Trust me.
Taste is subjective, and here you won't find the reaction you're hoping for.
Nope