politics @lemmy.world HLMenckenFan @lemmy.world 1y ago

The constitutional case that Donald Trump is already banned from being president

www.vox.com The constitutional case that Donald Trump is already banned from being president

Two conservative lawyers make a strong 14th Amendment argument. But the politics of their theory are very, very dicey.

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I definitely don't want the guy to run, but allowing the government to decide who is allowed to run for a third of the government is a dangerous thing
- I don't understand your argument, it's not the government, it's the laws of the nation.
  
  No different than why a non-US citizen or someone under 35 cannot hold the office.
  
  Technically, a 25-year-old can run for office of US President but not hold it.
- We've had laws around who can run for office since the founding of the US.
  
  You must be born in the US, you must be over 35, you must not be convicted of impeachment. You can't have tried to succeed from the US.
  
  There are other laws that have effectively banned who can run. Most states have ballot access laws.
  
  Rules about who can run aren't dangerous, so long as they are fair. Barring someone from participating in democracy that has tried to subvert it is more than fair.
  
  You can’t have tried to succeed from the US.
  
  Psst: It’s “secede”
  
  You can't have tried to succeed from the US.
  
  Tbf, that one was added later, for good reason.
- Allowing people to run for president who have a history of attempting to subvert democracy is decidedly more dangerous. Only a few specific crimes bar you from office and they are for good reason.
- The government already decides who its voters are by gerrymandering being legal. That ship sailed decades ago. So why sound the alarm over this? Concern trolling?
- "This dude just assassinated all the presidential candidates and admitted it. He just said he'll run for president. Don't let the government step in, okay?"

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