Uncommitted movement leader reminds senile Democrats why they lost.
Uncommitted movement leader reminds senile Democrats why they lost.
During negotiations with the DNC and the Harris campaign, we were repeatedly told by interlocutors that Harris couldn’t meet any of our basic requests (a policy shift from Biden, a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel, or even a meeting with Michigan families who lost loved ones to Israeli bombs) because of AIPAC-aligned politicians like Fetterman, who might take to TV, rile up suburban white and Jewish voters, and fracture the party’s coalition in a swing state.
That political calculus alienated a key voting bloc, although likely not large enough to have shifted the ultimate election outcomes, that should be part of a durable Democratic majority. But few will ever be held accountable for that choice.
A Fetterman staffer condemning Uncommitted for not advocating for Palestinians 'the right way' is like an arsonist scolding the fire department for using the wrong hose.
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Voting isn't some bargain between a thousand voting groups and one candidate. Let's break it down.
THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES
YOU PICK THE BEST CANDIDATE
Note that 'best' isn't 'great'; nor is it 'good', 'awesome', etc. And, while there are more candidates, sometimes only two have a chance (Hi Ross Perot!). So it's a binary choice. There has to be someone in office. You pick the least-worse one.
The unmentioned third option is "If you vote third party or don't vote at all, you accept the consequences of a worst-case scenario".
I'm really thinking America didn't educate people on 'this or that'.
THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES
That's not how democracy works...
Being restricted to two candidates is just like a one-party state with an extra choice for shits and giggles.
People vote with their conscience on whatever candidate they feel represents them. And it's THEIR business.
Anything else is NOT democracy. Nobody is entitled to your vote. That's the one power you have.
That’s not how democracy works…
It is unfortunately how the US democracy works. Nobody around today set this system up. We simply realized how it does and doesn't work.
Being restricted to two candidates is just like a one-party state with an extra choice for shits and giggles.
Nope. Two parties is a huge improvement over one. Three is an improvement over 2, etc.
3 > 2 > 1
The US is not, nor has it ever, been a democracy. Money decides and always decided, politics.
No you can force a political party to abide by your wishes by showing you are willing to not vote for them.
What lesson can the Democratic party learn from this?
No you see, they don’t want to hold politicians accountable. They’d rather bootlick while blaming individual voters for being stuck between a rock and hard place.
No you can force a political party to abide by your wishes by showing you are willing to not vote for them.
No you cannot. They don't even know that you exist. The simple reality is that the one and only possibility for major progress is for Dems to win big and win often. When that happens, Dems will all be competing with each other to show themselves to be more progressive than the other guys.
Dems had control of the house, senate, and POTUS for Bidens first two years, and they decided to do almost nothing.
Dems hid progressives in their tallies and told their staff to ignore them.
They refused to acknowledge our existence. Thus we refused theirs.
Sounds like US democracy with the US voting system is deeply flawed and the only moral action is to no longer engage with it. Otherwise you are expected to choose between different approaches to an ongoing genocide.
Personally I pull the lever in the trolley problem. Not pulling the lever definitely doesn’t equal washing one’s hands of the outcome.
Why not, instead, work to stop the trolley from killing anyone?
Cut people free, blow up the fucking trolley, smash the rails....
But no, you feel superior making a moral choice to kill people in group a, while bragging about "saving" group b.
🙄 you're not any better than people blaming non-voters for the election & you're not convincing anybody with that BS any more than they're convincing you
Why not, instead, work to stop the trolley from killing anyone?
I could ask the same of you! Instead of helping fix the system you're blaming other people for their personal voting choices. Get it?
I am working to fix the system, by working to remove the power of the state, from my community.
If you mean "fix it" by strengthening the imperial states of America's government, so we can keep the working class oppressed, I'm sorry, that's not my goal.
The elections over champ, you can stop screeching the same thing over and over again. Unless you're already gearing up to lose the next election too.
Angsty, disaffected, adolescent me in the 1990's believed that repeated rounds of "least-worst" would lead to, well, it's here. He wasn't proved wrong.
Voting isn’t some bargain between a thousand voting groups and one candidate.
That's literally what it was intended to be. Political party conventions once were real, high-stakes meetings to hash out a platform that appealed to as many interests as possible.
Or, you pick neither. That's also an option.
Wasn't there like 6 parties?
Instead of uniting against Trump, let's fracture the left by yelling at each other for voting the wrong way! Even though that has never worked in the history of ever!
I wish these people could understand that blaming people for voting “wrong” is literally the opposite of democracy and just devolves into nothing ever getting better.
Like you shouldn’t have to do that, people make good choices when they have good options!!