it's good to look in the mirror and understand the material outcomes of voter behavior
it's good to look in the mirror and understand the material outcomes of voter behavior
I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?
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There are actual Nazis in this administration, and you’re worried about “tankies?” Get it together man.
Because the people who enable to problem are part of the problem.
I'm a war you will cut off supply lines for the same reason, errode support. The commander doesn't say "people are dying on the front line and you're worried about stopping trucks transport bread? Get it together man."
God forbid the tankies should fight the Nazis again, right?
One’s enemies can exist on two fronts. It’s happened before.
“We are fighting the wrong enemy.” Allen Dulles expressed this sentiment in 1942, while serving as the Swiss director of the OSS. He had reevaluated the ongoing war with Nazi Germany and decided that the Communist threat was far graver than the National Socialist one.
You’re in good company
They're literally saying Nazis are also their enemies.
So is Dulles. He said "greater threat".
Where is your evidence that the person above believes the same thing?
...I'm sorry, what?
Are you or are you not claiming that @Rhoeri above considers Nazis to be the lesser threat? Since that's been the direction this conversation was in when you joined.
I'm claiming Dulles considered Nazis a threat. Smaller than the Soviets, but still a threat.
How dishonest of you to pretend this discussion had no context.
Unfortunately, it does.
Or are you saying you don't understand how context works?
Oh for fuck's..
@finitebanjo: $Tankies_rant @TokenBoomer: The Nazis are in power, and you're fighting tankies? @Rhoeri: Yes, there's two fronts @TokenBoomer: Allen Dulles also thought Communists are the more important enemy You, direct quote: "They’re literally saying Nazis are also their enemies." Me: Yes, exactly.
That is the context. Dulles thought communists are a "graver threat" than the Nazis, meaning he, also, considers both to be a threat. I don't know who Rhoeri considers worse, (though if this is anything to go by, finitebanjo seems to think they're one and the same). Either are welcome to elaborate their position at their leisure should they see fit. If the "greater enemy" is what you wanted to pivot the argument around, your reply should have read "They never said Nazis were the greater threat", the way you phrased it, it looks like you're misunderstanding Dulles.
On a separate note, I resent you starting this conversation with a sliding tackle, demanding evidence, calling me dishonest and pretending, and ending on an implied insult. Stop trying to spin minor misunderstandings into full blown arguments. You're getting a reputation, and so is .world, and it's for a reason.
The Tankies are promoting abstaining to help elect the actual Nazis and it fucking worked, so yes I'm worried about the fucking Tankies.
Tankies want 1 thing: "the end of US Imperialism" which is to say for us to all off ourselves so that NATO stops getting in China's way.
Are the tankies in the room with us now?
Take a look around.
Yes.
Are the Tankies in office? Prioritize and Organize.
Well...
2018
"He's now president for life, president for life. And he's great," Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump's remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida aired by CNN. "And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday," Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters.
2020
Our relationship with China has now probably never, ever been better," Trump said, adding that he gets on well with President Xi Jinping. "He's for China, I'm for the U.S., but other than that, we love each other."
2025
U.S. President Donald Trump said Thursday that he has “always had a great relationship” with Chinese President Xi Jinping and that he looks forward to “getting along with China.”
Yeah, fucking looks like it.
JDPON Don strikes again.