Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule

hah, this one is funny!

Also, echoing @[email protected]'s comment below (unfortunately you can't sticky comments on lemmy): comments that express hate towards any group are a violation of instance guidelines. BE NICE.

This happens when transphobes forgets that trans men exists lol.

Mod here. Just want to openly and unequivocally state... I will remove your comment if you're transphobic. I will refer to trans people to let me know if you are being transphobic. I will ban you if you make an egregiously off colour comment. and I will take pleasure in doing this. Fuck your transphobic bullshit, go somewhere else. Nobody wants you here.

I mean... it's supposed to be a 'beauty contest' so why shouldn't they compete?

Not that I don't think the entire concept of a competition over beauty is stupid, but they exist, so why not just see who wins?

I think it would have been fair to have a rule saying "no surgical modifications"... because doing things like facelift, nose-job, breast/buttox implants, cheek lifts, wrinkle removal, etc, are obviously unfair advantages (in a beauty contest) for those who have the money pay for it; and having a generic blanket rule like that would have accomplished the same thing they were trying to accomplish without being so blatantly transphobic... so a rule like what they have only proves that they are both despicable AND dumb. The entire notion of beauty pageants is outdated and stupid if you ask me.

Elia Bonci, who also spoke to la Repubblica, said: “I took courage, used my deadname and signed up for Miss Italy because fighting transphobia is intersectional and even though I’m not a trans woman, I’ve decided to fight for their rights.”

much respect to all that followed!

This is deliciously rich. They really painted themselves into a corner with that one!

For context, Miss Italia is no longer broadcasted on important tv channels and almost no one watches or care about who wins now. Years ago (10?) it was a big thing and winners would make commercials and do movies/series and be remembered for life. But it’s too an old school concept now

Anyway, I love this turn of events

Source: Italian

I hope he wins. That'd be really funny.

YES. This is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying!!! Like honestly, as a cis woman from Italy I’m so embarrassed by this nonsense. Like, cutting trans women out of the competition at this moment just means people are recognizing that trans women are “unfairly” more good looking than cis women. Which, personally, is true in my case but you don’t see me bitching about it. Fuck yeah trans dudes, trans chicks and non-binary buddies.

Clever way of protesting it.

Absolute chads. I'm curious what kind of response this is going to get.

This is fantastic, while having them obviously in drag is delicious, it would be even more stark if some of them present as traditional male too and really bring the point home.

Well, if you can’t tell, does it matter?

Wait, they have to tell the organizers such sensible details?

Are they required to be virgins too?

Beauty Pageants are uglyphobic.

This is a pretty awesome way to protest and show solidarity. These trans men are ballsy as fuck and I salute them.

I'd be more interested in protesting the fact that it's now legal to grope women in Italy.

The landmark decision involved a school janitor who jammed his hand into a 17 year old girl's panties.

Pick the hill you want to die on.

He is like: "I used the transphobia to destroy the transphobia"

So I thought I would look at the modlog in this thread

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Heavily downvoted sure, but what rule is it breaking?

Let's goooo guys! top spot is ours

Isn't this malicious non-compliance?

It eould be a Interesting Idea to make a Trans-Fenake Fashion Show as Protest.

What is protest part? Not sure it is malicious compliance either because contestant was not rebirthed as woman. Not that it's possible unless you are buddhist.

Trans Europe Express

Would they win in a contest that has female beauty parameters tho? It's like judging an M based on how similar it looks to an F

Ok sure. But it's not really an effective protest as they're fulfilling the requirement to enter the competition. Because the competition is steered by judges they will simply eliminate the trans men in the first round.

The rule is there to make sure the judges are not sexually aroused when they see a trans woman.

A greater means of protest would be if the non-trans competitors all quit the pageant. But their look is their only talent, so they won't.

Has anyone ever seen a "woman from birth"? Like a whole-ass adult woman popping out of somebody not appreciably larger than her? Ready for a beauty pageant at zero minutes old?

Completely independent of gender, people should know that "women" are adults and have zero overlap with "children" or especially "newborn infants".

Or is this a bad translation from the Italian?

Men don't understand no, I've heard this before...