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You guys should have listened to Thomas Paine, the only founding father with a clue and a set of principles.
Topical.
22 4 ReplyWhy, what did he say?
11 0 Reply- political institutions should promotoe individual rights and social equality
- critqued organized religion
- the government should serve the people
- wrote the famous line "These are the times that try men's souls" during civil war
- people have the inherit right to reform and/or dismantle oppresive goverments
- all individuals possess inalienable rights (human rights basically)
That's what I gather from his wiki and some chatgpt queries. Never heard of him before (not an american) but honestly — I'm a big fan now.
25 0 ReplySounds nice enough, but not really like an outsider position among the Founding Fathers. OP seemed to be saying that Paine differed substantially from the others in some way, which I would be interested to learn about (not American either, I only have cursory knowledge of the Founding Fathers).
3 0 ReplyPaine was far more radical than the rest of them, and wrote scathing critiques of them that caused him to become extremely unpopular before he died.
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Didn't all the founding fathers and every president since then say all of the above?
We need to praise people more by what they do, than what they say I reckon
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