Trump has a plan to win without the votes—and the fight is on to stop him
Trump has a plan to win without the votes—and the fight is on to stop him
As the 2024 election enters its last weeks, a years long-effort to protect it will be tested.
I wonder what percentage of his supporters know full well that all the election hoax stuff is a bunch of bullshit, but just go along with it for the exact same reasons as he pushes it? Just to win.
There's going to be a ratio of people that fall for the bullshit vs people that knowingly go along with the scheme. I wish there was some way to get at it.
I sympathize with the desire to know, but I think it really doesn't matter.
To quote Vonnegut, "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be."
Each requires a different strategy. Someone who is fooled may lack critical thinking skills or exposure to people or ideas outside of their information bubble. These problems are rectifiable if approached with care.
The other is more difficult, and requires a deeper understanding of the underlying causes behind their opinions.
Using the wrong approach on the wrong person wastes time and resources, and also risks hardening their position.
I think of it a little differently, and don’t know if this has an attribution: either you have an ideology, or an ideology has you. We may very well not know that we’ve been interpellated into a particular position, and then the “pretending” isn’t actually pretending. And if you’re authentic to an ideological position, it isn’t pretending either. We certainly can engage in pretend to conceal our ideological leanings, but this involves a level of self-awareness that is near impossible to maintain.
I think they all know it - it's entertainment like WWE to them. They just think it's fun to take sides and follow the drama and excitement. What they don't really believe is that it's all very deadly real and not make-believe.
A couple generations of people in the USA have lived without a threat of major disruption and they don't realize how cruelly fast things can change in this world.
Lying and cheating is wrong but the anti-choice crowd literally believes Democrats are baby killers so, I put my money on willful ignorance.
wonder what percentage of his supporters know full well that all the election hoax stuff is a bunch of bullshit, but just go along with it for the exact same reasons as he pushes it? Just to win.
It's very easy to get people to go along with almost anything, as long as they think they'll be on the winning end when the dust settles. As far as they're concerned, it's in their "bast interests", even if they know a certain amount of it is pure BS.
Remove money or the influence of money from the system.
It's not groups of people or nut jobs and their stupid conspiracies that win or affect an election.
It's the millionaire and billionaire donors who buy and sell elections and candidates that decide an election. Wherever their money goes it decides the election.
Remember ... it isn't a democracy ... it's a plutocracy .. this system isn't run by people, it's ruled by money and power.
Hilary Clinton significantly outspent Trump in 2016, and was very cozy with Wall St types. She lost. The establishment candidate backed by money was firmly defeated by noxious asshole with Qanon support.
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16
That said, I do agree that we desperately need campaign finance reform. Not because money reliably buys elections, but because of the corrupting effect it has on politicians.
how the fuck is this just now being mentioned by the press when anyone with a single brain cell has known it since before 2020
I wonder what would happen is this plan is successful and Trump actually gets the "technical win" - will the Democrats just give up the White House like that, will they refuse because Reps are playing dirty or will Democrats riot in the street? I'm actually curious if there's any good option to fight back that isn't "stop it before it happens".
I'm pretty concerned about this too.
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