Daily Discussion - 03 October 2024
Daily Discussion - 03 October 2024
Use this thread for general daily football discussion.
This thread can also be used to discuss Transfer rumours and to post Tier 4 sources.
In other news, Tomiyasu has NOT been selected for this upcoming international window.
The retirement didn’t last long.
Talksport have a new Arsenal YT show that isn't 100% hot takes by Simon what's his face or Jamie thingy!
Arsenal fans, Darren Bent, Clive Palmer and Julien Laurens, hosted by Talia Lazarus.
Not a bad watch. Something I was pondering whilst watching the video, the panel kind of agreed that we're on a different level to other teams in the league. We've gone toe-to-toe with Man City for 2 years running and only narrowly missed out only a few months ago. The fans they also spoke to said that everybody is scared of our success and I started to wonder if there is some underlying malice going on in the media.
What if the powers at be, behind some of the most wealthy football clubs, are spinning these narratives because they do feel threatened. It's their way of fighting back to undermine Arsenal since they are unable to beat us on the pitch. Especially in the case of Man City where we could usurp their dominance.
I'm not one for conspiracy theories, I feel a lot of them are due to people being stuck in echoe chambers, so I'll take off my tinfoil hat now, but I feel I resonated with Clive. I don't understand what's going on with these narratives that are being spun. I know what the intention is, but I don't understand why. Why are people so happy for Arsenal to lose just so Man City can win again?
I was speaking to a mate of mine recently and he's so disillusioned with football, he's given up watching it. He is a Chelsea supporter, so I guess that says a lot for his lack of interest, but even before then, his response for the past few years has been, "What's the point, Man City are just going to win again anyway". I think that says a lot about how fans who follow the premier league feel, besides Man City supporters.
If City win the league, everyone just says, "well, what are you going to do". If Arsenal win the league, that makes people sit up and pay attention. It's a legitimate win. No one will question whether we've engaged in dodgy financial manueuvers or whether a nation-state paid Havertz's dad 200k a week. They feel threatened because it'll be the first legitimate champion in years besides Liverpool.
That raises an interesting question though, why did Liverpool not receive that kind of treatment during the years they were going toe-to-toe with City?
I love Julien, he's always defended the team on ESPN FC
It needs to be studied how Benny Blanco continues to remain underrated. There's already some talk surrounding JT being made the number one RB.
Ratings will be quite late, I've had a pretty shitty past few days. Probably tomorrow but no promise.
From his comments about Unai, I think Titi really has a hate boner for Arteta. Even with the results the past few seasons, I've never actually heard him praise Arteta. He praises the team but never Arteta. Meanwhile he was basically jizzing over Unai today and said Arsenal would've done better with him if he was given the time. BS...Unai never even had the locker room, how would it have worked?
I think I've heard him praise Arteta before, but it's seemed muted and begrudging. So I think you might be on to something.
Interestingly, they briefly played together for us, back in 2012 when Henry came back on loan from MLS for a handful of matches. Makes me wonder if some sort of misunderstanding happened then.
I may be misremembering, but when Arsenal were performing poorly, I recall Arteta hitting back at ex-players who had been critical of him saying something along the lines of they should back us instead of causing more problems or something.
If my memory is correct, maybe there's some posaible resentment there for Arteta's reaction
But I mean can you blame him though? He was trying to create a more positive working environment, he doesn't need that kind of noise affecting his players.
It was also around the time Spotify was thinking about buying the club, perhaps Titi was promised something. Look, Titi is a great player, he knows his stuff as a pundit....but good god I wouldn't want him coaching the team. I've seen how Montreal went, French team he was extremely lucky to have such a talent pool to work with. But also you quit the team after getting the silver medal? Wouldn't you want to build on that?
It's interesting to note that Arteta has an open door policy for ex-players, if they want to hang out at the facilities and mentor they are more than welcome to.