QUESTION - Is Canada sending our soldiers to Poland or Ukraine?
I'm in Ontario and this past week I got a couple of messages from family and friends in southern Ontario that their sons/nephews/friends who are in the army are going to be sent to either Poland or Ukraine in the next few months.
It's really upset myself and my family because I have relatives who were war veterans who either died or were traumatized by war (in WWII and WWI). Most of my family and circle of friends all agree .... no one in Canada should be sent to any war / conflict / fight / aggression / whatever you want to call it in Europe.
One of them said that they were going to be deployed to Poland but then that recently got changed to Ukraine. The messages about this one soldier came from a mother who is a friend of mine. She said that her son told her that it would be a combat role for him.
I am not certain if the young son is making up stories for his mother (as they have a difficult relationship). I'm partly wondering if the young guy is doing some strange path of going to Ukraine just to fight in whatever capacity (whether as a Canadian soldier or just a plain mercenary) just because he wants to.
So after hearing two separate families suggesting that they thought their relative was going to be sent to Poland or Ukraine in the next few months ... is Canada sending ... or going to send troops to Poland or Ukraine? Or is this something that their families have to worry about because some dumb kid is wanting to join a war on his own?
Over 300 CAF personnel are currently deployed on Op UNIFIER.
Since August 2022, approx. 180 CAF have been deployed to the UK to support the training of Ukrainian recruits.
Since October 2022, Canada has deployed approximately 45 combat engineers to Poland to assist in the training of Ukrainian sappers.
Since March 2023, CAF has deployed approximately 10 medical personnel to Poland to assist in the provision of lifesaving skills to Ukrainian soldiers.
Other personnel are currently stationed in Europe working with Allies on a range of topics including the facilitation of military aid, alignment of future donations, as well coordination for the immediate and longer term training needs of the Ukrainian Forces.
NATO countries have avoided direct involvement the war for two years. Seems weird that they would start now.
I appreciate that ... but the news from this friend and her son was that they were sending him off to either Poland or Ukraine in a combat role. I heard a similar story from another military family but I don't know them as well.
This was very startling for all of us. This kid is about 25 - 27 been in the Canadian Forces for about three or four years now and is from the Norfolk region in southern Ontario. I know the kid as I helped him out with computer issues when he was younger (he was a real little shit on Limewire that ruined two family computers that I had to help them fix).
I know the family and I trust what they say but I can't for the life of me think that this could actually be true.
Which makes me think that this kid is doing something else and is wanting to just head out to the fighting on his own.
Unless there is an actual development happening where we are thinking of sending combat troops to Europe.
Could the kid be running his mouth off? The handful of soldiers I've known have enjoyed tall tales. This might be the kid talking big.
Unless there is an actual development happening where we are thinking of sending combat troops to Europe.
I don't know much about military stuff or his rank, but I'm guessing that kind of information wouldn't be provided to rank and file soldiers until the last minute.
Why shouldn't we send troops in cooperation with our allies to safeguard the rules based order? The reason why we got into the world wars is because nobody did anything to prevent them until it was too late. To those dedicated individuals who are willing to lay down their lives for our liberty i salute them.
Because the answer to the war in Ukraine is simple ... negotiate and mediate
And more simpler still, settle an agreement that Ukraine will not become part of NATO
The whole reason the war even started, the whole reason why it continues and the whole reason why everyone is pouring money into it is because of the NATO question.
Remove that necessity from the table and see what the Russians will do. If they continue invading and fighting, then you'll know that is just another war of aggression. If fighting can be stopped under the agreement, then you've stopped a war from escalating any further.
No one even wants to talk about this option and everyone just wants to fight without discussion. Ukrainians are dying enmasse just so the US and their allies can park themselves right next to Russia in an organization specifically designed against Russia.
I have no support for Russia, I think it's a brutal undemocratic regime led by an authoritarian but I do know that there is no need to needlessly antagonize a major military power when we don't have to.
Forget the whole NATO question and then we can all decide on whether or not Russia really wants world domination or not. No one has tried and everyone is wondering why the war continues.
Instead, everyone is willing to continue escalating the war without even trying to figure out a way to avoid antagonizing a nation with nuclear weapons.
You’re showing your true imperialistic colors. “Let the empire pillage its colonies” and all that jazz.
NATO was never an issue for Russia, and every time any kind of appeasement is attempted, Russia simply moves the goalposts and whines again.
They did invade multiple countries, they invaded Ukraine twice, but you would rather see them occupy more territories and ruin more lives, as long as you can pretend that occupation by an openly genocidal regime is peace.
So you think appeasing an aggressor will prevent war? I think that is a dumb take and i don't agree with your characterization of NATO being the cause. Those are Russian talking points and they are complete bullshit.
@[email protected] It's simple to you because you don't take all your cues from media running off what Wall St pays like The Guardian, BBC, Foreign Policy, Financial Times, WSJ. Even turbo-hawks like the Institute for the Study of War and RAND Corp. agree, the time to negotiate was FEBRUARY BEFORE LAST. Thanks for using your head instead of jingoistic sadism.