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100% percent accurate. The same dumb shit happened when the Bernie Bros threw their tantrums in 2016.
More Bernie supporters voted Clinton in 2016 than Clinton supporters voted Obama in 2008... but some people aren't ready for that conversation.
Yeah because Obama won
Being a dick and throwing a tantrum is more quickly forgiven when the consequences of the tantrum are the historic civil rights landmark president winning his resounding victory by slightly less than he might have otherwise.
When that Tantrum allows trump into office, it's a bit more difficult to just let that shit slide because "well more Clinton supporters did it to Obama than us!" as if that suddenly hands McCain the 2008 win or brings Roe back.
I'm not a Bernie supporter. I voted for Clinton in the primary and the general; I also convinced others to do the same. I also don't buy into the "Bernie would have won" nonsense. Given our country's long history of ferocious state sanctioned (and sometimes violent) anti-leftist propaganda, he would have had even more of an uphill battle at the ballot than Clinton with the "he's a socialist" label around his neck. That's not to mention there's a ton of Americans who are antisemitic and would have never voted for a Jewish person regardless of how they felt about Trump. To any Bernie Bros who are here: sorry, but thems the breaks.
All of that is neither here nor there. The truth of the matter is that the DNC gave Americans (across the whole ticket) a "business as usual" kind of campaign. Party leaders didn't take the threat of GOP proto-fascism seriously for decades. As we know now, Clinton was more or less ordained as the nominee, being given outsized control of the party's funding structure in the process of running... treating her as if she were the incumbent-running-for-reelection in all but name. Business-as-usual in the face of actual fascism.
The problem in 2016 wasn't "Clinton didn't campaign in Michigan enough," it wasn't "Bernie could have won" and it certainly wasn't "both parties are the same." The problem was centrists and right wingers in the DNC being complacent about or completely blind to the threat Trump posed. Trump wasn't inevitable, but a lackluster amount of effort was put up against him by the only party that could have stopped his presidency. The DNC and their donors were asleep at the wheel; thinking, quite incorrectly, that Americans were somehow immune to the siren song of populism and fascism wrapped up in a guilded cult of personality.
What should alarm you is that they are still not taking it seriously. Hillary Clinton recently said in an interview that she believes that if Trump had handled the pandemic in even a slightly competent way, he would have won against Biden. And she's 100% right. The party, not the candidates, is the problem.
You left out the Berne supporters that voted for Trump. But some people aren’t ready for that conversation.
Please show me that data - I'm very ready.
Well shit. Didn't know that was a thing.
Yeah. These kids are fucking things up for everyone. I, and many others have tried telling them- they don’t care/wont listen. They think they know everything.