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Any result over 10 is better than "average" and means a typical person would more likely not notice someone with a 14. Such a result would be more like just a bit of armored elbow poking out from behind the tree. As the image shows, you may as well be saying that Formula One cars are slow because fighter jets exist.
Eh, 10 is average for an untrained commoner. As an untrained commoner myself, I don't know that I'd do all that well at hiding in the woods, carrying a traveler's pack and wearing paladin armor...
The 14 would be after penalties for armor and encumbrance.
E-e-encumbrance...?!
It's a thing in Pathfinder at least.
To keep it zoologically on theme: https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/posters/black-bear-hiding-in-forest_u-L-PZVM640.jpg?artPerspective=n
Fun fact: One of the most recent times I've encountered a bear out on a hike it looked like that. Of course I didn't see it until I got within like 12 ft (~3.3 meters) of it.
We scared the shit out of each other. Basically I saw it and hollered, "Holy shit a bear!" and froze.
Whereas the bear when I hollered the bear looked at me and took off like, "Holy shit a human!"
Fun times, be safe in the woods y'all and be sure your glasses are clean so you can see critters before you're about to step on them.
It also helps when the bears are black in color instead of brown.
I think you are unknowingly agreeing. Having hiked with typical people most would not notice that bear until it moved, made a sound, or was pointed out by someone paying above average attention.
As an avid hiker, I agree
The amount of animals I've pointed out to people I'm hiking with that are hidden this well or worse is astonishing
In one of my other comments I told a fun little story about one of my many encounters with bears on hikes
A typical person not looking for the paladin, yes, they wouldn't notice that person. (Passive perception.)
Guards who are actively looking for infiltrators? They might very well do that, especially if there are multiple guards. (Rolled perception checks.)
Guards EV of highest roll (no mods) 1 10.5 2 13.7 3 15.25 4 16.2
