I'm a trans man. We don't have a secret agenda – we're just asking you to let us live.
I'm a trans man. We don't have a secret agenda – we're just asking you to let us live.
I didn't have the language growing up to know that I am trans, but I knew I was different. I hope my son never has to face what I did.
I don't know why I was born transgender, but I have no secret agenda. I want my child to live in a world where they are safe and free to be exactly who they are.
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Fewer than 1 in 3 people report personally knowing someone who is transgender. Yet the American public is saturated with viral social media videos and political news stories, largely generated by a well-funded coalition of organizations long dedicated to making it as difficult as possible for LGBTQ+ people to go about their daily lives.
These organizations proudly advocate for the abuse of LGBTQ+ young people through the dangerous and discredited practice of conversion therapy, and they have celebrated their role in influencing Texas to “investigate” parents who’re doing their level best to support their transgender kids.
They’ve succeeded in generating national debates about excluding transgender kids from school sports, banning medically necessary health care and even prohibiting restroom usage – all under a guise of “protecting young people.” But these debates are largely missing the point.
Transgender people are our friends, family members and neighbors. They work in the cubicle next to us at the office, and they pray next to us in our houses of worship.
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Im a bit of a dummy here but what rights do no trans people havw that trans people dont?
Your comment history is public.
By the way, rare meta-comment on myself. One of the things I have to do as a trans person is go look at people's comment history before trying to engage with them because so many transphobes use sealioning as a harassment tactic. I'm so tired y'all.
Yea, maybe time to get that tagging bot from reddit over to lemmey to see how is auguring in bad faith.
How does that change anything? I'm still waiting for you to name a single right that I have that trans people don't.
It's a bad faith question, like asking me to "define what a woman is". It's called sealioning. Here's your one good-faith answer.
While I might have most of my rights at the moment, they're slowly being stripped away in other states and are routinely threatened by the Conservative party on a national level. Some rights under attack are privacy and bodily autonomy. Here's some helpful info I'm sure will be handwaved away by some moving goalpost: https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights-2024
Its a legitimate question since when was asking questions bad faith? How is privacy a trans issue I would classify it as an everyone problem and yes the bodily autonomy thing is fucked as an adult I should have the right to do whatever the fuck I want with my own body. Wouldnt call these trans issues would call them critical revocation of freedoms issues.
Right? Just like how any gay man has the same right to marry any woman as any straight man!
In my country any gay man can go marry any other gay man if they want. So that's a problem that's already been solved as far as my ability to vote is concerned.
Where I am, I don't have rights to medical care. There are also numerous laws in progress that aim to remove the rights for trans people to participate in sports and use the bathroom.
Since you mentioned sports. I was wondering your view point on how it should be handled in some cases. I'm not at all against it but think it could be tricky when dealing with some sports if someone is male to female transitioning after puberty. In some cases there's no gray area such as when the world chess organization banned transgender women like what in the fuck. It's not physical it's a thinking game I don't even know why they would separate genders anyway unless to just be sexist and imply one is smarter than the other.
Trans woman here, i think the government should stay out of it and if an organization would ban a cis woman for having PCOS then that's "ok". i think they should get rid of that rule and allow all women on HRT to join but at least it wouldn't be transphobic.
I don’t even know why they would separate genders anyway unless to just be sexist and imply one is smarter than the other.
They don't separate genders. There's chess and then there's women's chess. As in there are tournaments for women and tournaments for everyone.
Women's chess is easier to compete and win in, and that's likely why they banned transgender women from it - for fear that some AMAB 2nd rate player might declare themselves a woman to win in women's tournaments and not wanting to navigate the minefield of how to define what a "woman" is in a way that prevents that but doesn't piss of the LGBTQ+ crowd. Easier to rip the bandaid off and be called a bigot for a short time now than have months of discussions that involve you being called a bigot over and over resulting in being called a bigot essentially no matter what definition you use.
And before it comes up, I'm not claiming women's chess is easier because men are smarter than women or something like that but because women's chess is a smaller pool of competition - it's easier to be the big fish the smaller the pond you're in. For example Judit Polgar is probably the #1 women's chess player of all time, she even beat Kasparov in a game at one point (being the first woman to ever beat a #1 ranked player in a game). Measure her against everyone and not just against women and she goes from being a superstar to merely being very, very good. From best woman in the world by a healthy margin for literally decades to #8 overall at her very peak.
Interestingly, basically all professional sports in the US use a similar setup, where there's a league that technically admits persons of either sex if they can compete at the required level and a league that only admits women. Just a few years ago a woman tried out for the NFL (and was injured after just a few practice kicks). There were talks that Britney Griner considered trying to be the first woman in the NBA, but went WNBA and set a game record and tied a career record in her debut game - she'd rather be a star in the WNBA than second-string in the NBA. I mean, before she got busted for domestic violence and later for drugs in Russia.
i like how your argument is "well it exists because otherwise it's only marginally worse."
If i had the chance to take #8 globally, across the ENTIRE world, that's incredible, fuck it, i'm done, my life is complete. I wouldn't complain about that. You can also break out the statistics, you don't have to break out the players, that's another equally valid way to construe this. Simply have different leader boards for different people.
I've never really been a fan of different competitive pools, if the entire point is competition, make it competitive. If you want to look at subsets, that's trivial to do in most cases.
If i had the chance to take #8 globally, across the ENTIRE world, that’s incredible, fuck it, i’m done, my life is complete. I wouldn’t complain about that.
Sure, but the point was the comparison between the two pools and how much the size of the pool impacts apparent performance - the same player with the same stats was #8 in the general chess pool for a time at her peak but was #1 in women's chess by a fairly large margin for literally decades (basically from the end of the 80's forward). She's been inactive since 2015, but she still holds the highest peak ELO rating in women's chess of all time (and is the only woman to ever cross 2700).
but was #1 in women’s chess by a fairly large margin for literally decades (basically from the end of the 80’s forward). She’s been inactive since 2015, but she still holds the highest peak ELO rating in women’s chess of all time (and is the only woman to ever cross 2700).
and my point is that these stats wouldn't change, because you would be sorting them exactly the same, the difference would just be your competition is no longer one party only. Though i suppose you could make the argument that having a womens league in the event that your female league size is literally 1/10 the male league. Seems like a skill issue to me though.
If ur in the us u never had a right to medical care. I'm in aus and currently most if not all gender affirming surgery is classified as cosmetic surgery and not covered my Medicare (nation health) if I want to physically modify my body that is also not covered seems pretty goddamn equal to me. Here's the dumbed down flowchart: brain doesn't like physical appearance of body -> brain wants that changed to feel better about itself -> not covered regardless of reason. Explain how this is anything but equality? Should I be protesting my right to have the government pay for me to get a bigger dick?
And the whole sports thing men have physical advances in many sports that's just science not all of those advantages are removed by being trans. Therefore it is not fare to have them compete against women. Explain how someone with an advantage from having been born as a male competing against people who can never attain that advantage is equality?
And the bathroom thing males are statistically more violent and prone to committing sexual violence this study found there is no appreciable difference in these actions post surgery therefore by putting trans women in women's bathrooms the statistics say no there is a reason men and women's bathrooms are separate being trans doesn't change the math.
:claps fins and barks like a sea lion:
You literally overlook how things like Viagra and estrogen are prescribed as gender affirming care and covered by Medicare to cis folks all the time!
:bark bark:
Why do cis folk get to have gender affirming care but not trans folks?
:slaps fins, barks again:
Your limp dick or low testosterone is god telling you not to breed, why should I subsidize your sex life?
Can u not get prescribes Viagra and/or estrogen?
There is a long way from taking pills to getting surgery and a large price gap.
And baseless insults again why don't you stop being a right old cunt and engage in a productive manner and have a civilised conversation like an adult?
:barks like a sea lion:
I don't get your point about gender affirming care. I mean, let's say that the government punished doctors who prescribed medication for lowering blood pressure. Yes, you could say that it's "equal rights" because no one is allowed to have the medication. But like, that still doesn't make the law okay. And people with hypertension are still being unfairly denied access to healthcare, since the type that they need has been singled out. Does that make sense?
I also have a question regarding gendered bathrooms. If I understand, you believe that there should be men's and women's bathrooms, and that trans women should be required to use "men's" bathrooms. I was curious, where would you choose to place trans masculine individuals (trans men or NB)?
Im a bit of a dummy here
This is true.
Where is the mod deleting comments that attack the person and not the idea
They're the one who said it. I was just agreeing with them.
I would very much like to have a discussion about the issue not hurl baseless insults. If u want to just hurl baseless insults lmk I'm more than happy to participate but I would have preferred to have a productive discussion.
I would very much like to have a discussion about the issue not hurl baseless insults.
You said you were a dummy. I agreed. You're just interested in sealioning. Another user pointed out your comment history, and I have no interest in participating in a discussion on your terms.
I told u I had limited knowledge on the subject in regards to rights. I strongly believe in equality and that all people have equall rights. I am still yet to be provided with a right that trans people don't have that everyone has. I really don't see how asking for a single example of the claimed behaviour is sealioning the closest thing to behaviour I have been provided with is an issue of bodily autonomy doesnt seem like a specifically trans issue.
And yes go read my comment history strange how my beliefs carry a common thread hey?
I'm not answering your questions on the grounds that I believe they are asked in bad faith. I'm not sorry if this disappoints you.
Question singular, all I want is one valid answer to one question. How can asking a single question requesting 1 valid example of the issue being discussed possibly be bad faith? I strongly suspect if u could answer my question you already would have and since u can't you have decided to refuse to answer my singular question while claiming me questioning literally anything is bad faith or sealioning.
Question singular, all I want is one valid answer to one question.
That's nice. I want you to stop bothering me.
in some respects you have a technically correct argument here. The problem is, is that this is like deferring an engineering problem in a bad design because "simply just don't build it wrong" only for someone to then go and build it wrong, and for it to kill tons of people.
The millennium tower in san fran is a pretty good example of this. Somewhere along the line somebody fucked up. Maybe it was the engineer. Maybe it was the project manager, who knows. Just because they're all educated and smart people, doesn't mean they can't fuck shit up.
Likewise here, technically they have rights, just like everyone else does, but the problem here, is that those equal rights, when compared to everyone, negatively impact only one specific group of people. Much like separate but equal, back during segregation. It's technically "equal" but it's still discriminatory.
Actually there millennium tower has always been perfectly safe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph9O9yJoeZY there was no fuckup just unpredicted surrounding geotechnical activity. Trust me I'm an engineer.
Segregation was never equal I don't currently see any unequal implementation of any rights in regards to trans people (well in the western world). Please explain exactly how the rights we all have are negligibly effecting them compared to everyone else?
Engineer is just a made up title you gave yourself. Explain one thing you know about constructing towers
I do mechanical so not an expert on geotechnical or civil but the video covers the basics related to the tower seems pretty clear cut.
I know that when undertaking a large engineering project each specific system or component is given to the relevant speciality to handle of which you clearly are not part of. I also know that almost all systems have legally mandated factors of safety to account for unpredictable things like idk unexpected Sinkage.
bro you are a fucking mechanical engineer, not a structural engineer, pipe the fuck down.
So what engineering do u do?
that kind that tells me that i should listen to people who actually know what the fuck they're doing, because they probably know a lot more than i do.
I linked such an expert
that video is two years old, casey jones has actively been covering the recent efforts, im not even sure that the perimeter piling project had been started back then. Or if it was, i'm sure it wasn't in the state it is now. So we had a different idea of it back then.
Are you just going to ignore the fact that i also linked someone who literally worked in this exact field, dealing with these kinds of problems specifically?
Sounds like you read a Wikipedia article. Sinkage sounds like you made it up. How does that make you an expert on the millennium tower?
Sounds like you read a Wikipedia article.
cos I know what I'm talking about so do the people writing wikipedia.
Never said I was an expert I provided a link to an experts opinion that references the other experts reports. Sinkage typically refers to the downward movement or settling of a structure or foundation into the underlying soil or ground. I don't need to be an expert on the subject to reference an expert, but if we look at it relativistically compared to you I am an expery.
and relative to me, you are a dumbass who happens to be a mechanical engineer.
Just because i'm a linux user, and understand how the OS functions, doesn't make me an OS level SWE. That would make me one of the greats, i am not. I am some fuck who uses linux.
Likewise, relatively to you, assuming you don't use linux, i'm the linux expert here. Even though i have no qualification for such title.
Actually I been daily driving Linux for years now. Me talking about engineering to you is like u arguing with a windows users who has never used Linux who thinks they are an expert on it.
how many years have you been using linux? I've been going for about 5 years now myself.
Your statement is true. About mechanical engineering. And potentially linux, depending on your level of experience.
But the equivalent here is like me claiming that because i use linux, i know how macos works more than a macos user.
You're falling for their sealioning and moving goalposts. Take a sec to think about what you're arguing and where this conversation started at the top of the thread. There's no winning, please save your energy and don't give this troll any more attention. You don't deserve to have your effort squandered on a closed mind.
stated to be perfectly safe by the people who own it, who are hundreds of millions of dollars in the hole on that building, because nobody wants to fucking live in a building that is unknown geological stability.
Casey Jones has an excellent series of videos on the millenium tower that i suggest you check out (he is also an engineer) and he thinks that the entire building is essentially a failed project. With fuck up after fuck up.
Specifically, the building was built entirely wrong, they fucked up the foundation completely, good question as to how that one happened. Miscommunication? If that was the case, what else could be wrong with the building? Who knows! They attempted a fix, by doing 56 perimeter pilings, but actually, jokes on you, we're only doing 18 perimeter pilings (keep in mind the plans for repair that were suggested were doing thousands of micropilings across the foundation) and now the middle of the building is sagging away from the exterior of the building. It sure seems like it might just collapse in on itself at this rate huh?
Anyway, as for your statements as per how the rights differ. IDK, being banned from entering sports, not being allowed to seek gender affirming care. Probably a number of other funny societal related issues. I mean there is example after example in that one really.
Would you like to explain why separate but equal was never equal? And how simultaneously, two different groups, have the exact same pool of rights, even though one of those groups literally has laws written specifically about them, and what they're allowed to do.