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Reddit mods discuss forming a union and suing for back pay

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Reddit mods discuss forming a union and suing for back pay

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  • Realistically, I don't think this will go anywhere. While Reddit's use of free moderators to do the bulk of the work might raise eyebrows, they've been very clear about the fact that moderation is a volunteer effort, rewarded with "status" as a moderator and greater control of the communities moderated.

    However...

    Going forward, Reddit moderators should absolutely collectively bargain for pay, refusing to moderate unless Reddit pays them fairly for their efforts. I think I saw somewhere that the average moderator spends around 20 hours a week moderating (could be remembering wrong) so asking for equitable pay would be a way to deprive Reddit of millions of dollars of unpaid labor. Worst that happens there for the fediverse is that they agree, though.

    • refusing to moderate unless Reddit pays them fairly for their efforts

      What will really happen: new mods will be put in their place instead, willing to do the dirty work for free because they don't get the protest. They will probably be worse than the people they replaced and they will not defend their communities against the further changes the website will bring. This will kill Reddit as we know it, but it won't happen overnight, it will take months or even years, every community slowly draining away its goodwill while users organize new communities elsewhere, be it Lemmy or wherever else. At that point, Reddit will become a news aggregator or a boring social media websites closer to tiktok than it is to the discussion centered place it is now. And we won't be there to really see it under that new guise, just like I had to check to see that digg.com has now become a sad flipboard clone.

      • And that's a perfectly acceptable outcome! If Reddit dies like Digg, Tumblr, and now Twitter have done, then I'm okay with that and I imagine that most of us here are too. If Reddit's new mods are low quality, then illegal content will become more prevalent and they'll risk, at the very least, public censure for their enabling of [insert illegal stuff here.] But you're right... Reddit is not likely to die overnight. It'll take time measured in years.

        • It's funny because now Digg.com artcles might get 15 comments. I remember when it was an actual social media site and not just another blog. 😆

      • They don't have the labour available to just replace every single moderator. Some subs take teams of dozens just to somewhat function.

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