Deferated from hexbear.net
Deferated from hexbear.net
Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net yesterday.
Here's a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users:
- Spamming bullshit links to the pig poop picture: https://lemmy.ca/u/[email protected]
- General trolling: https://lemmy.ca/comment/2146513
- Posting the pig poop emoji repeatedly and not adding value to discussions: https://lemmy.ca/u/[email protected] https://lemmy.ca/u/[email protected]
- Calling for exections of landlords: https://lemmy.ca/comment/2154580
They warned their users to behave themselves, but that didn't work: https://hexbear.net/post/280770?scrollToComments=false
Please read and respect the rules of the community instance in which you are posting/commenting. Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated. Realize that you are a representative of the hexbear instance when you post on other instances.
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Probably get banned for this comment but all of the rights we have were taken via violence. Nothing else is going to stop feudalism in this country except violence. That guy threatening landlords is, like it or not, correct
Not that I want to go killing people, but that's quite literally the only way change is made throughout all of human history
How many Canadians had to take up arms and murder their countrymen to get gay marriage and cannabis reform? The other side certainly used a lot of violence, AND THEY LOST. I only have to come up with one counterexample and there's two.
That's it. That's all there is to it. It is true that some rights took violence to establish, but clearly there are plenty that didn't. If for example it takes violence to fix our housing problems, then I guess that's what would have been needed, but there are plenty of options before we get there.
Yes violence can be both successful and unsuccessful but to begin with the state likely used violence against violent supporters of bad drug policy and bigoted marriage laws, or alternatively against covid deniers and what not. On the other hand people did riot for weed and gayness 50 or so years ago and continually violently defended themselves in their continued (political) existence for these years. Political change, even if the laws change relatively non violently at the end, needs violence or at least the threat of violence to come about.
You're moving the goalpost. We're talking about executions. Fucking terrorism. That is NOT the way social causes are advanced.
No I'm describing the world and how I understand Political progress. Protests, strikes, riots, civil war, terrorism, assassinations, police and military violence and war can all be used, and are primarily used to further political goals. Politics is, viewed from some perspectives at least, the struggle about who can use what kind of violence for what reason. Specific to the landlord example, the police will use violence to enforce the landlords property rights through eviction, sure there is a system that justifies that violence, it is still violence.
Looking at what Abes assassination did to political development in Japan. especially toward Abe and the Unification church seems to provide good reason to assume terrorism to be pretty effective at the moment. ISIS, black Panthers, the end of the British Raj, the existence of the country of Turkey its all violent power struggle for political goals all the way down. If you are a freedom fighter or revolutionary or a terrorist is literally just a matter of perspective.
I'm just trying to get you to realize that Violence is used by all political sides and that their own justifications for it are never perfect. You might find yourself supporting violence by the(your) state and violence from other groups on different issues, both are violence nonetheless. I generally agree executions for achieving political goals shouldn't be needed, at the same time they do happen regardless, and you can separate good political goals from bad ones, and welcome the executions that further your political goals, without endorsing executions generally.
What childish nonsense. You have no absolute rights as a member of a society. Every right is limited and every law limits a right. Virtually none of those were passed through violence.
Do you not know how Canada became a country??
If you think laws will be peacefully passed that grants housing to all Canadians you are delusional
156 years ago?
Dude, it's time to move on.
It's time for a revolution actually
It's time for change. We are a long, long way from revolution.
Well I am not a long way from living on the street lol
One person is not a revolution.
There are hundreds of homeless people in my small city of Victoria alone
Ever been to Vancouver?
Yes. I'll be there in the middle of September.
A few hundred homeless people do not a revolution make (or a few thousand, or a few tens of thousands.) You can fantasize about it by the reality is that you end up dead or in prison if you try.
We need change, that is an absolute truth, but we are a long, long way from revolution.
Ill take that bet.
Are we betting or what? I offered you the bet. Are you actually going to take me up on the offer or were you simply talking out your ass? I've got $10 that says it was the latter.
Ok...what's the timeframe? 1 year? Complete revolution, right? Violent overthrow of the government, not just a lone wolf or another street shitting inflatable hot tub tantrum doesn't count? $100. I'll provide the details for an online escrow service.
You're not advocating for violence, so why would you be banned?
We don't want to prevent reasonable discourse with opposing opinions, we just don't want an army of trolls and (literal) shit posters overwhelming everyone else.
You’re not advocating for violence
Is he not? He said only violence gets anything done and "that guy threatening landlords is, like it or not, correct." I guess you could be extremely generous with assuming he likes society exactly as it is?
He's edited his comment and I'm pretty sure it wasn't that aggro when I read it last night, unless I was really that tired.
Sorry, I got the impression that you ban whoever you disagree with
My god, what a martyr
Property managers are just wage workers.
Read "Against the logic of the guillotine" perhaps