Trump vows to keep talking about criminal cases despite prosecutors pushing for protective order
Trump vows to keep talking about criminal cases despite prosecutors pushing for protective order
Donald Trump is blasting special counsel Jack Smith and vowing to continue talking about his criminal cases even as prosecutors seek a protective order to limit the evidence that Trump and his team can share.
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Trump will continue to play grab ass with the fuck-around gang until he finds the exact line in the sand that guarantees he gets held in pre-trial detention. If he gets thrown in the slammer while awaiting trial he will claim he is a political prisoner, and if they don't stick him there he will do everything in his power to commit soft-treason through his cult. Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.
Until he is made to suffer serious consequences for his violent petulence and penchant for authoritarianism things will never move forward in any meaningful way. He is a distraction that, when all is said and done, will have stagnated the progress of this country for a decade at minimum.
Edit: Accidentally a word
Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.
It's like the whole US is scared of a scar so they keep delaying the op to get the tumor out.
I think the greater fear is that anything done against him becomes fuel for the Republicans/conservatives to elect an even worse human being.
While I generally agree with you assessment, I think it is important to note that not punishing Trump would embolden or exacerbate his brand of bully pulpit tactics even more. This fear of retribution just means we need to be ever vigilant, and take the threat of authoritarian minority rule seriously.
That is what we are ultimately talking about, and the only way to prevent that is to stay engaged politically, and to hold our leaders to account whenever they trample on the rights of our fellow citizens or our democracy.
Exactly. The only thing you get with appeasement is vindicated bullies. justice must fall. or the US falls. if he goes this far without consequnces... then the next guy will go a little bit further and a little bit further. In fact, that's pretty much the TLDR of Trump's entire political career.
Good analogy. Let's just hope it is excised before it metastasises and kills the patient.
Although sitting in a cell is my favored outcome for him for doing this, I would love it if the judge just barred him from using electronic devices. Can you imagine how pissed off he'd be?
Will that order include a dude following him around and slapping phones out of his hand? Because he is already not allowed to talk about the case and he just ignored it.
Did you ever see the old Disney cartoon, The Band Concert, where Donald Duck just keeps pulling flutes out of everywhere like up his sleeve and under his hat? You're making me think that's what Trump will do. Hide phones everywhere so he can constantly sneak onto TruthSocial. In his socks, in his underwear, under his MAGA cap...
That is literally what he does. The classified document case revealed that he rarely uses his own phone, he just ask whatever employee he is next to to borrow theirs.
Fine, let them know that if they do that and get found out, they'll get thrown in the slammer. That'll put the breaks on that one.
- Brakes.
- That's assuming he values human life above anything at all, much less his ability to whinge like a greasy zit with a suck hole.
The brakes, even.
So we take the "Lock Him Up" approach and if anyone has a problem with that, we lock them up too.
it's only tyranny if you disagree with the majority...
Yea, because locking a guy up who is blatantly threatening witnesses and prosecutors in criminal cases against him- despite numerous warnings not to- is so tyrannical.
If trump wasn’t a rich white ex president, he would have been arrested the night of, held until trial in prison and convicted with in a few months.
The real tyranny here is the dual justice systems in which this idiot walks free despite trying to overturn the government and walking out with some of the nations secrets is treated like kid gloves with nothing happening for over 2 and a half years.
He would have been arrested the night of, held until trial in prison and convicted with in a few months.
The really irritating part is this isn't even conjecture. Over a 1000 convictions have already been secured in connection to January 6th, many of those people were held pending trial, and for fucks sake some of them are already out of prison before Trump has even had his day in court.
Anybody who can't see the hypocrisy in that, and identify how that implicitly constitutes a two tiered justice system is either brainwashed or so full of shit their eyes are brown. Facts matter, accountability matters, democracy is not a given, and it is about god damn time we start taking each of those things seriously.
As somebody with brown eyes….I just want to point out that their shit would be red. from all the koolaide they drink.
Just saying.
But seriously, though. Teixeira (discord leaker) was discovered, identified and arrested within days.
Like you don’t want to know what would have happened to him if he had nuclear secrets of the severity trump had.
Teixeira's lawyers are arguing (or were, maybe it was unsuccessful, I haven't kept up) that he did the same thing Trump did essentially and, therefore, should be free on his own recognizance. It's kind of hard to disagree there. Either both deserve to be locked up or both deserve to be let free. It's inconsistent and we all know why.
He's still detained until trial. But I agree, somebody with Trumps possible knowledge on classified shit and blatant criminality... shouldn't be allowed to go play golf with the myriad of foreign nationals he's quite chummy with.
more broadly, I think cash bail needs to go away. either the person is a legitimate flight risk, or they have a high likelihood of committing more crimes... or not. the vast majority of locked up but not convicted people fall into the "or not" category
Sorry for the euphemism. I actually thought about that before I posted it, but I didn't have a better one to throw out there so I rolled with it 🙃
As far as the Discord leaker is concerned I think I'm pretty confident that he would have been sentenced to life in prison or potentially even executed if he leaked nuclear secrets on a public forum. That wouldn't be without precedent, and they fucked with Bradley/Chelsea Manning for a looooong time for far less so I'm comfortable making that inference from modern examples.
Whether that is the correct/ethical thing to do is a different matter, but it goes without saying that the punishment would be severe.
I think it's safe to say we have many, many examples of "normal" people to justify burrying trump under gitmo.
Here in the United States of Money, the only money that people take money is money
That's what gets me. It's not like he was smart about it. It's not like he tried to hide it. No, he does stuff in broad fucking daylight, openly admits it, and still gets off scot free! Not only that, but his cult of nutjob dumbasses worships him for it, all while acting like it's tHe OtHeR SiDe commiting treason.
Interestingly… I looked it up on chat gpt.
As of ‘21, the person with the most felonies appears to be richard Ramirez at 43 (murder, attempted murder, sexual assault and burglary)
another guy initially pointed to- Richard McCoy - had 16 in DB cooper like hijackings.
Granted it’s chatgpt… but trump truly is “uprecedendted” (In his scope of criminality.)
I strongly suggest you don't treat a language learning model as a search engine or any kind of artificial intelligence. It is not.
and that's exactly why I flaggd it as coming from chat GPT. combing through the literally thousands of jurisdictions in the US to find the most felonious guy is... not something I have time for and a quick search turned up nothing about the actual subject. feel free to drop a more reliable source, though.
Bing Chat does a proper search at least before it starts making claims. I use it a lot.
CHPT is a language model, not a search engine
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Nice. I didn’t know that.
Search engines came up with “percentage of us population incarcersted” and “number of us felons”,
So, me, not wanting to do a doctoral thesis level of research used a tool get an answer. If you happen to have a better answer…. By all means…
But just uselessy pointing out a fact i already knew… (and the reason I flagged it as being the source…) …
Tf are you searching? These are all SERPS from different searches.
You're all over the place bud
I blocked your chud ass already. Why am I seeing this shit?
i. am. unstoppable.