What do you believe that most people of your political creed don't?
What do you believe that most people of your political creed don't?
Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.
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I wouldn't kill my neighbor? Was that too complicated an example? I think that money, like an axe, is a tool that can be used differently in different contexts. 'Money' isn't the issue. How it's used is the issue, which is why I think we would invent it. You don't solve the 'issues' of an axe. You don't solve the 'issues' of money. Capitalism uses stand-ins for value to harm people, but I am not convinced it's an inherent trait of value stand-ins. I think LV's are money, so I think you think that is true also.
I'm asking what's wrong with money that carries over to LVs. Why is money an issue?
LVs would have their own problems-- if I do work for someone else, can they just create LVs to give to me? Do they get to create however many they want?
The answer is no in both instances, hence why labor vouchers are only sensible in a centralized and publicly owned and planned economy that has gotten rid of the necessity for small commodity producers.
Interesting. That could work. Feels a little draconian though.
How so?
Mostly that the central planning authority gets to decide which work is meaningful enough to get paid for
All work would be paid for. Volunteering to help someone out isn't the same as working a job, and moreover the need to volunteer would be minimized before such a system could take place to begin with.
All work would be paid for? Who decides what "work" is?
You'd get a job in the public sector, now the only sector. Various economic decisions are made at local, regional, global, etc levels by councils, planners, elected officials, etc.
Right, but I could not get a job unless it's first been created by the government. What if the government doesn't want to create a job that's necessary? What about jobs that aren't necessary, but are still desirable? If I have artistic skill, would I get an appropriate amount of work vouchers? Would skill factor in at all, or only time spent working? What is my invcentive to be efficient if skill is not a factor? If skill is a factor, who determines what "skill" is? Do we vote to make 10 furniture maker jobs and one "expert furniture maker" job with appropriate salaries?
You don't have to answer all of those, I'm mostly just saying that this would result in a LOT of centralized control, which would have to be handled with a large amount of nuance, and that deciding these things by vote isn't likely to work (see also, the most recent election).
I never claimed there was anything wrong with money? As far as I thought, I was arguing that it was a tool so useful it would be reinvented if a society did away with it.
Sure, but I think it's an entirely different thing at that point even if it is used for distribution.