The unloaded rifle has been recovered by "personnel from the Commando Training Centre".
![Royal Marine's rifle lost on Dartmoor is recovered](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/a76a5f25-d612-475b-95c2-ec4cd56f1f05.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Post from when it was lost: https://feddit.uk/post/935755
I've been at the thick end of this fight for over a decade (on reddit). The vast majority of the work I and my co-mods do is never seen by anyone outside the mod team.
If it’s an agenda that goes against what people generally think, don’t they get down voted?
It depends. Very few are stupid enough to say anything that's obviously bad. Most use dog whistles and innuendo. And when they do speak plainly, there's an army of their likeminded friends to drown out any descenting voices (brigading) and inflate their (and similar) comments.
That sounds like their own communities? Those are easy to spot and back away from. If it’s just a group of individuals whose agenda goes against the grain, those “discussions, posts, subjects” are either controversial to begin with or they aren’t of enough significance to make a difference anyway. Where it matters, wouldn’t they be overwhelmingly down voted?
Yes, bad actors can have their own community. No, you don't want to go there. Did you ever see /r/MGTOW, or /r/PussyPassDenied? Mysogony is rife, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, racism, etc, etc are all more common than they used to be 5-10 years ago.
I’m not aware of having seen this when it hasn’t been dealt with be mods/admins, usually by locking the post or deleting the comment and with bans. Where you see damage being done through the post having quickly turned toxic, I see the moderation that follows as a red flag.
If a mod is any good, and knows the group the bad actors are from, then the majority of the work is done behind closed doors (automod for dog whistles and known phrases, etc).
Bans are seen as a "badge of honor" by most of these people since it's so easy to create a new account. They can also wait to appealed after 3 months since that's how far back the moderation log goes (on reddit), so unless you've kept notes and evidence it's easy for them to play the fool and say they've "turned over a new leaf".
This doesn't even touch on suspected state actors / state run bot accounts. Several UK regional subreddits saw a wave of anti-Ukranian posts (false news reports about robbery, attacks, theft, etc by refugees) in an attempt to destabilise the UK's support for Ukraine shortly after the Russian invasion.
Or the "bad news" accounts that just go from regional subreddit to subreddit posting (legitimate) news stories about bad things. Rape, murder, assault. Anything that can stir up some rage. They never comment, and post at all hours of the day, every day of the week.
In my experience, if bad actors have a specific agenda to push they usually hang around in groups of likeminded people and search for specific discussions, posts, subjects, etc to push their agenda in. This can often results in a toxic / bad faith comment being one of, if not the most highly upvoted comments (due to brigading). Most people that take the middle ground on a topic rarely have the energy to fight against a dog pile of downvotes and bad actors. Automatically assuming that bad actors are single outliers operating by themselves is a bad position that IMHO leads to "too little, too late" moderation reactions after the damage is done and the post has turned toxic.
This is a very complex topic, and not one I believe can be solved by just letting the voting system work it out. I don't know the right answer, it's one I've been searching for, for years. But the assumption of "good faith, until proven otherwise" in conjunction with "it's only a few bad actors" is specifically the mentality the bad actors are exploiting. IMHO, YMMV, IANAL, etc...
Did you see the "Devil's Cauldron"? It is worth a look, especially if it's been raining hard.
More than 5,000 acorns picked at ancient woodland on Dartmoor
The work is part of a Duchy of Cornwall project to double the size of Wistman's Wood by 2040.
![More than 5,000 acorns picked at ancient woodland](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/9c2205f8-2342-4f98-b12e-db86cf1fd1a3.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Britain's lush, humid woodlands are home to weird and wonderful lichens not found anywhere else on Earth.
![Rescue mission for UK rainforests’ weird treasures](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/d78c755c-654d-4996-8779-3461247cd0c3.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Britain's lush, humid woodlands are home to weird and wonderful lichens not found anywhere else on Earth.
![Rescue mission for UK rainforests’ weird treasures](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/a8c947ce-8ac6-4fa1-83b1-8b809f5ac952.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Work will start on Sunday as part of plans to double the size of Dartmoor's Wistman's Wood.
![Work to begin on Dartmoor's Wistman's Wood expansion](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/853cc1fd-8a4d-45c7-9716-ce20a925de29.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Campaigners around England are hoping more official bathing sites will lead to cleaner rivers.
!['Time for change' in push for cleaner rivers](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/e44945bf-45e7-467d-83b3-f44f2f5dce3c.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Firefighters say the blazes were in a wooded area where forestry operations were taking place.
![Fires break out at Venford Reservoir on Dartmoor](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/01e2ebb7-7225-47d2-a1dc-6b2fdbd7744e.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Paved surface at Dartmoor stone row uncovered by archaeologists
A quartz surface – possibly laid deliberately to enhance the setting of a double stone row – has been uncovered during excavations at Piles Hill.
Dartmoor National Park says it is a "significant opportunity" and "a first for a UK national park".
!['Significant' plan for Dartmoor and US national parks to collaborate](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/7b896721-a5b5-48b5-a33d-b7db0b518ed3.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Okehampton named Small Station of the Year at National Rail Awards
Okehampton Station has been named as the Small Station of the Year at last night’s ‘Railway Oscars’ following the hugely-successful reopening of the Dartmoor Line.
![Okehampton named Small Station of the Year as GWR triumphs at National Rail Awards](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/8d0244bb-0fcf-4167-b591-7a55c13c647c.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Dartmoor National Park Authority to file objection against Supreme Court legal bid
Dartmoor National Park Authority has agreed to respond to a new application seeking to appeal the Court of Appeal’s judgment which allowed backpack camping on some of Dartmoor’s commons without landowner permission.
A high ridge on Dartmoor may have been used by Stone Age hunters to spot prey.
![Dartmoor dig unearths Stone Age 'viewpoint'](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/c12fd642-e921-4157-be03-7507f2352a2d.png?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
If only someone had said something beforehand...
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Experts say in the past 25 to 30 pairs were on Dartmoor, but now there are "about two at best".
![Curlews released on Dartmoor in bid to boost numbers](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/91f8c2e0-79eb-417a-bf42-9d98cc356272.png?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Archaeologists at the University of Exeter used specialist techniques to find the roads.
![Roman road network identified in Devon and Cornwall](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/7c72769e-e165-4ce4-aafb-8932eab136e5.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Archaeologists at the University of Exeter used specialist techniques to find the roads.
![Roman road network identified in Devon and Cornwall](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/da545f73-f020-4f09-8ae7-e7fb705552fe.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Freak August Summer Storm Hits Ilfracombe
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The MOD is investigating after a search failed to find the weapon.
![Royal Marine loses unloaded rifle on Dartmoor during exercise](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/c47f9c45-ff59-4dff-97b8-125976306e77.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Park Authority win battle against landowners to allow wild camping in Dartmoor without permission.
![Dartmoor wild camping to resume after appeal win](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/697ad755-19ee-4bf7-bc47-0c9a840f2812.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
Park Authority win battle against landowners to allow wild camping in Dartmoor without permission.
![Dartmoor wild camping to resume after appeal win](https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/8451d960-d689-42fa-b9fd-09797ab4b17c.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256)
A lot can be said for light bikes. Having helped a friend pick up his CB500X covered in luggage when he dropped it at slow speed on gravel, I really don't want a heavy bike. My 401 is 150kg, and feels really light and nimble.