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valveman @lemmy.fmhy.ml
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Mates, today without warning, the reddit royal navy attacked. I've been demoded by the admins.
  • Well, they could just say: "We made a script to track every mod who closed their sub, revogate its mod permissions and notify all other mods in the sub with an automatic message", which basically frees them from any charges regarding community content.

    They could, however, be sued for not actively removing illegal content, such as pirated things and MAP related things (e.g. r/jailbait)

  • This comment right here
  • LMAO, what? Protests ain't fun at all and aren't meant to be. Here in my country, it's pretty common to see public school teachers doing protests and strikes demanding better salaries, then get shot by cops using rubber bullets or get some pepper spray in the face. I don't think they protest because getting shot is "funny", they do because they want a real change for everyone.

    Also, the protesters ARE (or at the very least should be) aware of the risks and downsides. If the people you work with decided to make a strike because of something they don't like or agree with in your workplace, they are at least aware they may be replaced by scabs or get fired. Likewise, the mods and users who embraced the protest were aware the community content would be inaccessible and they'd have to find other things to do aside doomscrolling all day.

    So no excuses here, people got into this because they really want some changes, and those who didn't either: are Reddit bootlickers; aren't aware of the real impact the API changes are going to make or; aren't able to reach much people without staying on Reddit (here I talk specifically about FMHY and Piracy communities)

  • If we go back to Reddit, they win
  • I'm one of those who found FMHY and piracy related things through Reddit, and I understand you, like a lot of other communities there. But if everyone thinks the same, then Reddit will have almost every big community up and running, thus making this protest pointless.

  • If we go back to Reddit, they win
  • Yeah, I've been facing the same issue. I miss my country's subreddit, specially now we're having big things happening politically speaking, but people here don't have that much of interest in tech things, specially if it's a bit harder than normal.

    I've been thinking of running my own instance and try to bring these people here, but i don't know if it'll be worth my time. I think I'll just enjoy Lemmy for a while and see what happens in the next weeks. If people get at least interested, I might give it a try

  • If we go back to Reddit, they win
  • I like your idea of evangelizing people on Reddit, but I'm kinda concerned with how we'd keep this infrastructure up and running in the long term. I don't think everyone would like to donate some bucks to help keep their home instance running, and the massive migration has already made some instances to upgrade their servers, raising their cost.

    I'd love to see the Fediverse expand as a whole, but it must be a sustainable growth if we want to get somewhere.

  • If we go back to Reddit, they win
  • I don't know about Digg, but the blackout kinda crashed their website/app. I think if we keep the protests going, they'll either have to roll back the changes, or open the subreddits by force and deal with low quality moderation.

    Also, I think they did some irreparable damage to their image by not listening to their users, and this hopefully will kill their platform on the long term.

  • If we go back to Reddit, they win
  • Agreed, I think it's a good time to be here: Mastodon has been gaining a lot of ground these days, thanks to Elon; other apps like Peertube, Pixelfed, Lemmy and Kbin are growing as well. Now I actually enjoy the experience of the Fediverse, and I hope it keeps growing and maybe dethrone current mainstream media.

    Reddit was moaning about the cost of maintaining a public API that is being heavily farmed by AI learning

    TL;DR: Spez is a scumbag and don't care if people use Reddit content to train AI models, he wants to kill 3rd party apps.

    I don't think they're actually worried about people using their data to train AI models, since Sam Altman (OpenAI's CEO) is a Reddit investor and was a former chairman until 2022. I mean, either spez knew Sam was using it (my theory is that they're "friends" and spez knew it all along) OR spez didn't see Reddit content as valuable until now. Either way, Reddit started to limit access from mobile browsers, forcing users to use their official app. I don't know, but it seems to me spez is trying to kill 3rd party apps instead of just creating a better protection against scraping.

  • If we go back to Reddit, they win

    I've seen that some subreddits went dark and said they'd come back in 2 days (June 14th), and others said they'd go dark indefinitely, until the API changes are rolled back. I'd like to make an appeal for the admins who're willing to go back: please don't.

    I think Reddit wouldn't withstand 2 weeks to a month without their largest subreddits, and maybe they'd change their minds about API changes. Some may say they'd just make the subreddits public again and promote someone to mod (which I totally agree, they'll probably do that if the blackout endures for too much time), but I think most people don't realise the PITA it is to be a good mod, and just want to be one because of the status (I'm not an ex-mod btw, I just heard it is very complicated to moderate and I believe it really is).

    Secondly, there's no guarantee that Reddit won't pull the rug again. Even if they roll back the changes and everyone goes back, they'll probably come up with this strategy again some time in the future. So instead of going back, stay in the Fediverse: all applications are open source AFAIK; you can run your own instance if you wish; you can defederate other instances if you wish; you can contribute with new features you miss or create a fork aplication of your own if you want to; heck, you could create your own Fediverse application if you want. And there won't be a scumbag to come and try stop you.

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