@[email protected] years ago my dad kept insisting they were female Robins 🙄

@sc_griffith last one (probably) - as I'm now working quite a lot adjacent to philanthropists (and find the whole concept and reality of that deeply morally unpleasant on many levels), v interesting interweaving of that aspect.

And again, comes back to the EA nonsense.
Sigh

@sc_griffith stood out:
"a mature, scaled-up industry could eventually achieve a ratio of only 3-4 calories in for every calorie out, compared to the chicken’s 10 and the steer’s 25. That would still make cultured meat much more inefficient compared to just eating plants themselves... And the cells themselves might still be fed on a diet of commodity grains, the cheapest and most environmentally destructive inputs available. But it would represent a major improvement."

@sc_griffith thanks, that is a cool piece! Indeed having done plenty cell culture myself and seeing those shockingly astronomical meat consumption figures, the solutions seem much clearer to me. I doubt LGM will be a useful reality in my lifetime, maybe far in the future. So, people need to stop eating meat, and eat plants instead.

Many are already doing so! I've mostly stopped with meat myself, just some fish to go.

But we need political will. Change of culture. Sanctions on the US, etc :/

@TinyTimmyTokyo @BlueMonday1984 lab-gown mest is fine tho. I'd be all over it if it ever works.
But yeah he'd fit right in on LW I'm sure

Edited based on later chat: eh
https://med-mastodon.com/@noodlemaz/113641637798676074