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www.404media.co OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us

OpenAI shocked that an AI company would train on someone else's data without permission or compensation.

OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us

> The venture capitalist and new Trump administration member David Sacks, meanwhile, said that there is “substantial evidence” that DeepSeek “distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI’s models.” \ \ > “There’s a technique in AI called distillation, which you’re going to hear a lot about, and it’s when one model learns from another model, effectively what happens is that the student model asks the parent model a lot of questions, just like a human would learn, but AIs can do this asking millions of questions, and they can essentially mimic the reasoning process they learn from the parent model and they can kind of suck the knowledge of the parent model,” Sacks told Fox News. “There’s substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI’s models and I don’t think OpenAI is very happy about this.”

This sounds like horse shit to me but I don't know the technical details well enough to say with confidence.

also "suck the knowledge out of the parent model" what the actual fuck?

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elon musk's obsession with the tic tac toe of video games
  • The way Checkers was solved was actually pretty cool. That he dismisses chess for this reason (even though it hasn't even been solved) speaks to the kind of dorky dipshit he is.

    PS: this solution was considered AI in 2007.

    [Schaeffer] carried out a mere 1014 calculations to complete the proof in under two decades. “This pushes the envelope as far as artificial intelligence is concerned,” he says.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2nd February 2025
  • Without knowing why you think they suck, it’s hard to say. I like having unphishable uncopyable credentials, and it irritates me that they aren’t more widely supported. On my desktop or laptop, they’re less irritating than TOTP, for example, which is neither unphishable nor uncopyable but much more widely used.

    I've come around a bit since posting yesterday (after looking into the various hardware key options, like OnlyKey). The biggest issue I have is that the firmware cannot be updated (which I realize is somewhat a matter of taste regarding your threat model). Other than that, it's the added complexity of "use this physical device" and the concern I had about recovering accounts if I lost the Yubikey. Their page on spare devices does not inspire confidence.

    Whilst there isn’t really such a thing as “too secure”, it is the case that things like passwords are not infinitely scaleable. Something like yescrypt produces 256-bit hashes (iirc) so there’s simply no space to squish all that extra entropy you’re providing into the output… it might not be any more secure than a password a quarter of its length (or less!).

    128 bits of entropy is already impractical to brute force, even if you ignore the fact that modern password hashes like yescrypt and argon2 are particularly challenging to attack even if your password has low entropy.

    Fair point! I chose 128 because it's the maximum allowed in Bitwarden (if it's going to be copy-pasted anyway, who cares). Assuming I didn't fuck up basic math, the entropy of a passphrase of length n selected uniformly at random from characters in A is given by nlog|A|, so to reach 128 bits of entropy with 70 chars (lower + upper + digits + special) requires a passphrase of length 21.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2nd February 2025
  • A note to the effect of:

    You have basically no control over how Apple handles your data. When iOS users opted out of data collection, Apple still collected the data, they just didn't allow third-party access to it.

    is a good idea if I ever do recommend a Mac.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2nd February 2025
  • I believe ungoogled-chromium does have MV2 support. Unfortunately, there are still real security concerns with Firefox. The good news is that Trivalent (a hardened version of Chromium developed by the Secureblue folks) has ad/content blocking built in. I am still mostly using Firefox, but the small amount that I have used Trivalent has been good.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2nd February 2025
  • Spent the last week playing with some security shit (thinking about a career change, since it looks like I will be mastering out of my PhD program) and fuck me everything about hardening your personal devices is exhausting. We are nowhere close to accessible privacy and security in our computers. The best solution right now may be "buy a Macbook and learn MacOS", which is so depressing.

    Still deciding on a web browser. Used to be I could recommend Firefox because Righteous-Opposition-to-Google, but that doesn't really track anymore with Mozilla's behavior. Now I guess I would recommend Chrome, but it feels so gross (and I am unsure about things like Ungoogled-Chromium, for security reasons).

    the basic laptop hardening
    • Install Fedora Silverblue
      • Be sure to set a good LUKS password
    • Set a BIOS password and disable USB booting
    • Rebase to secureblue
    • Follow the Post Install Readme
      • I personally couldn't figure out how to set the GRUB password. I will probably get around to it eventually.


    As far as passwords, the only password I have to memorize is the one to my Bitwarden vault. Everything else is stored in Bitwarden. The passwords (except for my phone PIN) are 16 characters if I ever need to type them in manually (e.g. LUKS password), whereas passwords that will always be copy-pasted are 128 characters. I am looking into integrating a yubikey, but am leaning towards "fuck that shit, why would anyone actually want to use this?" If anyone here has comments on this (am I missing an obvious pitfall? do yubikeys suck as much as it looks like they suck?) I would be happy to hear them.

    Anyway tl;dr is I spent the last week hardening all my devices and it sucks. In some cases it was a complete waste of time (my Steam Deck does not appear to have a way to set a password in the BIOS). In other cases (e.g. my Framework), it was probably worth it but a deeply terrible experience.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • I have the outline of a write-up about about category errors and measuring proxies (e.g. reported sexual orientation). I think I am a poor writer but the only critique I've ever gotten was from a "colleague" who writes like he gets paid by the word1. I will consider sharing the post once it is finished. ❤

    1: one rejection on a collaboration with this guy was essentially "have you nerds heard of 'brevity' or 'wit'?" --- from computer scientists 😭

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • Well, this Andy dipshit gave an absolute dogshit apology on reddit.

    Snippets below:

    sophistry and bullshitting

    First, while the X post was not intended to be a political statement, I can understand how it can be interpreted as such, and it therefore should not have been made. While we will not prohibit all employees from expressing personal political opinions publicly, it is something I will personally avoid in the future. I lean left on some issues, and right on other issues, but it doesn't serve our mission to publicly debate this. It should be obvious, but I will say that it is a false equivalence to say that agreeing with Republicans on one specific issue (antitrust enforcement to protect small companies) is equal to endorsing the entire Republican party platform.

    andy doesn't know his head from the DNC mascot

    Second, officially Proton must always be politically neutral, and while we may share facts and analysis, our policy going forward will be to share no opinions of a political nature. The line between facts, analysis, and opinions can be blurry at times, but we will seek to better clarify this over time through your feedback and input.

    The exception to these rules is on the topics of privacy, security, and freedom. These are necessarily political topics, where influencing public policy to defend these values, often requires engaging politically.

    The operations of Proton have always reflected our neutrality. For example, recently we refused pressure to deplatform both Palestinian student groups and Zionist student groups, not because we necessarily agreed with their views, but because we believe more strongly in their right to have their own views.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • I am very outside of my depth here, but would be happy to read about it. My initial thought for a solution would be to develop in parallel an email service that doesn't do encryption, as well as a mail client that allows for end-to-end encryption. But, being outside of my depth, I have no idea if this is a totally laughable solution.

    Edit: should clarify that my thinking here is that users who just want an alternative to Gmail would have it, and people who wanted "email with encryption" could use the mail client (and potentially use it with a different provider). I don't know if that is feasible (I am not aware of any such solution), but it also strikes me as more sustainable (logistically and financially). Hopefully I only flipped a bozo bit or two, here, and not a whole bozo nibble.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • I agree. Currently I can't recommend any email providers. Hopefully Posteo works out, but at this point I am strongly considering just starting my own competitor in the vein of Signal messenger. Basically "we think of email as a public good."

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • Thanks! I actually plan on putting a couple of things on Mataroa:

    1. "Here is a list of shit you can do to make your computer suck less (would contain the above)"
    2. "Here is how to make your Pixel phone less frustrating in 2024 (basically, how to use user profiles to create a dumb phone without the massive security issues or headache of 'oh, actually I do need that app occasionally')"


    (Aside: if anyone can recommend a better blogging platform, I would appreciate it. I like Mataroa for its privacy focus, minimalism, and low cost-of-leaving. The only issue I have is lack of KaTeX/MathML/however-the-fuck-omg-why-is-TeX-still-trying-to-hurt-me-in-2025 support.)

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • Here is their response:

    @mav Yes, this was bad. I did not take a screenshot back then (the post was deleted after 30 minutes), but I scrolled all my way through Mastodon to find our apology:

    https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/108910936764865962

    https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/108910937813834878

    This was a mistake, we apologized & we made sure that we would never post something similar again.

    At Tuta, we foster honesty, respect & diversity.

    We are here to fight for privacy & against Big Tech surveillance. We want everyone to get the respect they deserve.

    and this:

    @shalf We set up guidelines that all team members on social media duty need to adhere to. We also created a social media review group where we post & discuss every proposal before actually publishing. And it has worked fine ever since. :)

    Content of Apology

    Dear Privacy Fans,

    Last week, on Friday, a post was made on our social media profiles which goes against our core values as team members and as a company. This post was made in poor judgement, without stopping and examining the underlying racist and sexist problems posed by this meme template, and it does not represent the culture and environment of the Tutanota Team. After a period of approximately 30 minutes the offensive post was removed from all platforms and a "brief" apology was posted.

    This brief apology does not go far enough to address this mistake and we would like to update everyone on how we are working to address this issue internally and how we will make sure that this does not happen again. As a company we are working with all of our team members to foster a culture that respects diversity in all forms. This is both on a personal level between colleagues, but also at an institutional level by working to create structures which allow diversity to flourish.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • Last time this came up, I considered Posteo but decided to hold off (I think it was actually you who suggested it ❤). There was a concern I had about deleting an account due to inactivity, but I think I just misunderstood or misremembered something on PrivacyGuides. This might be a good choice.

    As far as Filen for photos, I am reasonably confident that Ente will stick around (they seem to take sustainability seriously). Stuff like this worries me about Filen (emphasis mine):

    What else is planned for Black Friday this year?
    As every year, we’ve planned a special surprise to give back to our loyal users this Black Friday. Just like in previous years, we won’t be revealing any details just yet. All I can suggest is to check in with us around November 18th—you won’t want to miss it!

    Are lifetime plans stackable?
    Yes, we'd like to emphasize once again that all types of our plans can be easily combined. Subscription plans only expire based on their individual purchase dates.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems
  • I am also in the "scream and cry" phase of this. However, I have already decided on the following replacements for non-email:

    1. Mullvad VPN
    2. Ente for photos and photo backup
      2a. their authenticator also slaps
    3. Filen for cloud storage[1]
    4. Bitwarden for password management
      4a. Keyguard is great if you are on Android. I am looking into[2] other (non CLI) Bitwarden-compatible password managers for Desktop I should not have suggested Keyguard, since I am not aware if it has been audited. It was probably a mistake for me to use it at all. Sorry everyone.

    edit: Should mention that I am also looking into a calendar replacement.

    edit2: maybe mailbox.org? They are recommended on PrivacyGuides.org.


    1: This is more like a stopgap for me until I confirm they are worth sticking with or find someone better. The 29.99€ 100GB lifetime storage may be worthwhile for this (though I cannot say whether I am confident they will be around in 5 years, this can at least serve as a short-term solution).
    2: lassitude

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 12th January 2025
  • After reading some of the counterpoints here, I began thinking about how I considered Excel a hyperkludge if you qualify it enough. I realized the qualifications apply to every programming language (good ol' Turing Completeness). I think, in my case, the common scenario of

    1. this tool[1] is just a proof of concept/prototype
    2. it costs less to maintain our tool than to write a more appropriate solution from scratch
    3. our infrastructure is now the tool

    had me erroneously criticizing the tool instead of its application[2]. In the case of Excel, I worked a few jobs where the spreadsheets used when the company was small led to an absolute nightmare after the company grew.

    I appreciate the thoughtful responses from everyone. <3


    1: Usually a spreadsheet, in my experience.
    2: Noting that, while "it's not the tool, it's the application" is a common refrain from people using tools in shitty ways, there is a distinction between "this is the wrong tool for the job" and "this tool will hurt people".