Almost surely what they wanted the Ambassador class to be. Also what they wanted the NX-01 to be in the beginning before they noticed how much more guns they needed.

i'm done, do what you want

I have 20px wide and 22px tall
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the center symbol needs to be one higher
also the chat doesn't work I guess

To be fair, its an open source game, so I don't really mind that much. And the logo that's here is already smaller than the original one lol.

They wanted to do that scene since the very beginning! and they only did it at the very end

As if the other 10 star trek movies didn't exist lmao

Yeah star trek right now really can't seem to decide whether "space is cold" or not.

Of course, that's because the truth has just alittle bit of nuance to it, and nuance is hard for writers.
Space can be cold, depending on where you are, but its also barely even there. No atmosphere means no convection, and that means you're gonna be losing heat much too slowly for it to be your number one problem if you've just been spaced without a suit.

Would've been cooler if it was the three-nacelle version that everyone loves

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Speaking of unused music, the final TMP/TNG theme itself was almost different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbdhC-OXXa0

There's an interview where they tell stories, and apparently after they made this early version of the music, Robert Wise listened to it and gave the best three word critique ever - "There's no theme!"
Goldsmith basically went "...oh.", then went back and reworked what he had already into the 2nd version, and there you go that's the final theme.

For me, its less "Oh my god how could this happen!?" and more "I told you asshats so!"

Was there ever a time when it wasn't shitty?

Re-arranged for a smaller orchestra, and more energetic (most noticeable in the percussion)

I saw a lot of opinions back in the day about it, and it almost seems like people were offended that they even tried to break the mold at all.

I don't actually mind Faith Of The Heart for the intro. My biggest problem with it is that its not an original song - it was written specifically for a movie that was completely unrelated to Star Trek.
I would probably appreciate it more if they wrote their own song for ENT - it could even be a country/pop song like FOTH, but it would still be a Star Trek song.
They definitely cherry picked the best bits of the song for the intro though. I like their cover more than the original.

Actually, if you've watched TNG's early seasons, you've already heard this unused theme, in bits and pieces.
The very first piece of music heard in TNG ever (that isn't the intro itself) is a slower, less energetic (more introspective I guess?) version of that unused theme.
The main leitmotif itself appears all over early TNG.
I figure that, when Maccarthy was writing the early filler music, he assumed that his theme would become the main theme, and so heavily leaned into it when writing the filler music. Obviously, the main theme was tossed - but not his other music.

The TMP nacelles are very 70s (lol), but the rest of the ship looks so good that it makes you overlook it.

I think that you could make a good case for the First Contact/Regeneration/QWho loop directly being Q's creation, rather than a vague sense of fate.

With respect to lemmy/kbin I am literally browsing these threads from startrek.website and it feels totally normal.

You know, the feeling I'm getting is that !startrek is a lot more general than r****t startrek was. There's only three boards here, so everything goes in one of the three. And the vast majority goes into this one.