of course, I even said there were Jews that lived in palestine before annexation. one is a ethnicity and the other is a religion, so I'm not sure how that's relevant.

even if i follow your train of thought, jewish palestinians existed so they have the right to create an ethnostate?

So for you, a millennia of history, distinct cultures, and dialect are meaningless. People who migrated and forcibly colonized in 1948, with no connection to the region or land have as much of a claim to it as an ethnicity who has lived there for centuries.

So if that's your argument do you just believe that israel has the right to go on a conquest and slaughter palestine? Genuine question.

Palestinians are brutalized on a daily basis. Their land was stolen after WW2 then slowly usurped and terrorized while the world kept funding Israel. That was originally palestinian land, and there were even jewish communities in that palestinian land. Now it is an ethnostate that lets new yorkers take some guy's ancestral home because he's of the correct ethnic category.

e: it's quite strange to have to explain to people why a genocide, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid is bad.

or perhaps israel kills people on purpose when shooting those missiles?

gaza is about the size of jersey and one of the most crowded cities in the world. if you shoot 1 ton missiles into a crowd of people to hit one target, chances are you are going to hit more than just your target

I have no idea what you're asking. Yes I would love if people stopped this madness and gave palestinians their homeland back. what does that have to do with facing the facts of one tragedy? friendly fire happens.

Israel has killed thousands and displaced millions...because they think it's their god given right to conquer the land. most of the country agrees that arabic people should not have the right to live in land that was palestine a few years back. they are an apartheid state and have essentially wiped out most of an ethnicity and culture in 70 years.

go fuck yourself

if you look at the images there is hardly any property damage. there is no crater. there are a few busted windows and some charred cars. not an expert but it wasnt some kind of WMD. and im not entirely sold on the 500 mark either.

its not gymnastics. israel is flattening gaza with bombs and has attacked "safe" escape routes. im not denying that. but hamas also has awful equipment and little military training, misfires are expected.

Israel is a genocidal state but most arrows point towards a misfire. They don't have the money for quality weapons and don't have the training. This looks like a pretty small warhead struck and the surrounding petrol in the cars erupted into flames. Don't buy into spreading misinformation, it just weakens our cause. anyways, fuck israel.

I just want to respectfully remind everyone that just because this tragedy was likely not perpetrated by Israel, it does not mean they are absolved of any of the hundreds of war crimes they have already committed.

Well Israel has dropped more bombs this week alone than the entire Afghan war, so it isn't obscene to think the few hospitals left standing are overcrowded by the thousands. If OSINT is to be believed, it hit the parking lot and wiped out that many people, its a pretty fucking big parking lot. And if it was Hamas, they do not have as powerful of payloads as Israel, so I would assume they were just too weak to collapse the building.

Also it's unclear how many people died.

Reuters, NPR, NYT. I'm not going to deny facts, I would just like to be sure. Israel has enough war crimes for me to hate them over.

It's genuine intel but needs to be verified thoroughly. I will believe it once it hits reputable news sources.

Once this is backed up by a reputable news source, I'll believe it. It's unfortunate but I can't argue with facts if adequate evidence and vetting is presented. I still hate Israel with every fiber in my body. From the river to the sea.