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davetansley davetansley @kbin.social

Dice maker, gamer nerd, developer, Dolphins fan. Reddit refugee (maybe).

Still fighting the 80s 8-bit wars, one port comparison at a time.

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Anyone else crazy enough to build their own retro-gaming machine?
  • About 13 years ago, I made this fella.

    https://i.imgur.com/hZYFEmC.jpg

    It was a huge amount of fun to build and I was very happy with the result. I hardly play it, but sometimes just put it on and let it cycle through games to fill the house with an arcade-y ambiance.

    It started off life with an old PC in it, but currently runs a Raspberry Pi 3.

  • *Permanently Deleted*
  • This!

    Coding isn't for everyone, but sometimes you can get involved in a coding project just by contributing good suggestions/bug reports to github.

    Be thoughtful about how you report things - if you're reporting a bug, add as much detail as you can to help the devs recreate it; if you're suggesting a feature, make a solid case for why the application might benefit from it, think about potential issues it might solve (or cause), consider how you might address users who don't want that feature (make optional).

    It is extremely satisfying to see an issue you've reported get fixed or a feature you've suggested get implemented. It gives you a stake in the project, something you won't often get on the corporate-owned platforms.

  • A Deadly Blend (coffee themed dice)

    It's incredibly rare that a set turns out exactly as intended, but it sometimes happens. Like this one - the intention was to make a set that looked like coffee, and that's just what we got!

    Fittingly, this set was sold as a gift for a barista!

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    Kbin Subscriptions Panel 2.9
  • Great! I'm keeping yours installed for now since it pulls in the paginated subscriptions pages (and I love the grouping!)

  • What country do you recommend for visiting?
  • Iceland. One of the most beautiful, weird, friendly places I've ever visited.

  • Shadow of the Beast: Port Comparison

    Is Shadow Of The Beast on the Amiga a game or a tech demo?

    I think it's both! But it was way better at one of those than it was at the other... It also found its way from the more-than-capable Amiga to the less-capable 8-bit machines, during a time when the direction of ports was reversing.

    Previously, 8-bit games got jazzed up and pushed out on the 16-bits; later, 16-bit marvels got their wings clipped and were squeezed into the older machines...

    So, how did they do? Well, I played 'em all, so you don't have to...

    The Amiga port of Shadow of the Beast

    There's no question, Shadow of the Beast on the Amiga is a technical delight. It looks great, with smooth graphics, eerily designed levels and atmospheric cut-scenes. The audio is even better, with some of the best early-Amiga music, full of pan-pipes and dreamy synth.

    But for all it looks and sounds amazing, it's not a great game.

    A side-scrolling "platformer" with confusing level design, lazy placement of monsters, horrendous difficulty and clunky controls, it comes across as frustrating... As much for the missed opportunity as anything.

    The C64 port of Shadow of the Beast

    The C64 port feels like the worst of a bad bunch, but not by much.

    It's blocky and drab, with indistinct graphics and has the same annoying level design of the Amiga, but manages to compound this by going crazy with extra enemy placement. The result is that it feels too hectic and all over the place.

    That said, the music is easily the best of the 8-bit bunch, with a marvellous take on the Amiga theme.

    The Amstrad port of Shadow of the Beast

    The Amstrad port shares a lot of DNA with the Spectrum port, being developed by the same company.

    It's still the same old clunky Shadow of the Beast, but this time with the added agony of an extremely questionable colour palette choices.

    From the moody, earthy hues of the Amiga original to... checks notes green, blue and yellow. It calms down a bit when you're indoors, but it's hard to get past that opening vista.

    Sound is... okay.

    The Spectrum port of Shadow of the Beast

    On to the Spectrum and... well, listen: This game is a technical showcase on the Amiga. So it was never going to be massively impressive on our feeble rubber-keyed chum. In fact, it's a miracle it runs at all.

    That said...

    If I called out the Amstrad for colour choice, surely the Spectrum should be similarly criticised? Well, sure, but somehow it works here. The monochrome is expected and garish, but the graphics are clear and it controls pretty much okay. 128k sound is good too.

    But it's still Shadow of the Beast, no matter how miraculous the existence of this port is.

    So, on the 8-bit micros at least, a narrow Speccy win! But it's a Phyrric victory at best.

    The console ports of Shadow of the Beast

    Shadow of the Beast also found its way to those fancy consoles that only the posh kids owned...

    The Master System gets an okay port with various QoL improvements (continues) and some gameplay tweaks, which improve it somewhat.

    The MegaDrive port is slick and sounds great, but it runs too fast and is hard as balls.

    The PCEngine CD version is probably the best of the bunch. Like the MS, it has continues, and the CD music is truly awesome!

    Honourable mention to the Atari Lynx, with its unexpected port. Colourful, controls okay... but hey, it's still Shadow of the Beast.

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    What are your favourite classic game soundtracks?
  • Oh, I love the soundtrack to Final Fantasy XII! The Rabanastre theme always seemed like the perfect non-Christmas Christmas music to me.

    I should probably replay Final Fantasy XII...

  • What are your favourite classic game soundtracks?
  • Outrun, the correct answer is Outrun :)

    Final Fantasy VII a close second, though.

  • Does anyone remember the Neo-Geo?
  • Like everyone else, I mostly remember being amazed by both the graphics and the price. Nobody I knew had one, except one guy who acquired it using money he'd raised through, shall we say, illicit means. As such, he kept it under his bed all the time in case his parents ever found out and nobody saw it. Come to think of it, he may have been making the whole thing up...

    As mentioned elsewhere, this was the first system I was enthusiastic about emulating.

  • Nostalgia: an unachievable high?
  • I'm equally intrigued by the idea of not experiencing nostalgia... :)

    I guess the root of it is yearning for a time when things were simpler, but also it's an associative thing - you remember being happy/content, and you associate the context you were in with that feeling. I had a happy childhood, and I played a lot of games, so my mind links the two together.

  • Nostalgia: an unachievable high?

    I have a problem with nostalgia. I'm addicted to it, but it's never enough.

    Most of what I do is dedicated to the pursuit of that drug, to experience that particular high. I play ancient videogames in the hope that they make me feel how I felt playing them in the 80s or 90s. I watch old movies for the same reason. I listen to old music, or music that sounds like old music, trying to evoke the spirit of a time long gone. If I could live in a world where the TV played nothing but He-man and Thundercats and Mysterious Cities of Gold, I would...

    But over the last few years I've come to realise that this dogged pursuit of the past is a futile endeavour. Beyond fleeting moments of glorious recognition, I never end up feeling how I felt back then. And why would I? How you feel at a particular time is as much a result of the person you are as it is a response to the thing you are doing.

    As an increasingly grumpy nearly-50-year-old, I am a very different being to the awkward 13-year-old I was in 1988. These days, I worry more about retirement plans and interest rates than I do about homework and unrequited love. I am the Ship of Theseus, in which every part of me has been replaced multiple times. My reactions to things are dulled, more refined, more cynical. Not worse, just different.

    Back then, I felt like I was leading the vanguard of something genuinely new. Every ZX Spectrum game felt like a voyage into the unknown, a private world that few people knew or cared about. This feeling was heightened by scarcity. I saved pocket money for months just to afford a new game. Whether the game was any good or not was less important than finding something in that game to last me till the next far off purchase. That paucity of novelty caused me to find aspects of a game to enjoy, because I had no other choice.

    These days, I have too much choice. I have devices filled with every game across multiple decades, shelves filled with cartridges I'll probably never bother to play. Novelty in abundance, and no incentive to make those precious connections.

    And maybe I've seen too much? How can I be wowed by the undulating roads of Outrun or Super Hang On when I've driven every part of Liberty City or San Andreas? How can the freedom of Tir Na Nog thrill me when I've walked for days in Azeroth or Tamriel?

    Even worse, I've realised that the nostalgia I crave is often not even my own.

    I don't crave the 80s of North East England, all social deprivation and baggy jumpers, the 80s of my actual youth. Instead, I crave the cartoon-ish 80s of the movies I grew up on. I crave NES culture, or long summer nights with chirping insects outside the window, falling asleep in front of a black and white movie marathon, the pink and purple sunsets of a caricature that this narcotic industry has created.

    I've realised that the pursuit of nostalgia will never give me what I crave, so I'm trying to change.

    I'm trying make a conscious effort to enjoy things for what they are, not what they remind me of. I play games because a 48 year old man wants to play them, not a 13 year old boy. I try to make new connections and associations, rather than rekindle old ones. Elden Ring - sure, that reminds me of the year I got married! Super Mario World - ah yes, the time I took a week off work to get all 96 exits and watch SDGQ! I try to generate new nostalgia, rather than wallow in old.

    Most of all, I try to accept that nostalgia is a drug best enjoyed in unexpected moments of recognition, rather than as a constant hunt.

    What about you? Do you have your nostalgia craving under control? Or do you still seek those glorious and elusive highs?

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    Where did magazines go?
  • "All magazines" to the right of the top bar goes to the same place.

  • Where did magazines go?
  • Do you have "Show top bar" enabled in settings? If I enable this, Magazines disappears from the navbar.

  • Mockup: I'm a fan of having all my favorite subs/magazines to access on a glance.
  • I think the problem is that the subscription page (that the script gets its items from) is paginated, and the script will only get the items on the first page.

  • Mockup: I'm a fan of having all my favorite subs/magazines to access on a glance.
  • Ah! It looks like I wasn't on the latest version... updated and it works perfectly now! Thanks!

  • Wild Magic (hydro-dipped D6 set)
  • Thanks!

    No extra steps required really... the tricky part when doing these is finding a way to grip the dice in such a way that you don't mess up the pattern. I've found the best way to do this is to drill a small hole in one face and push a cocktail stick into it. You can leave this in while the die dries (pushed into some plasticine). When you remould the dice, the hole goes under the logo, so it won't be seen.

  • Mockup: I'm a fan of having all my favorite subs/magazines to access on a glance.
  • This is amazing! It basically recreates my reddit browsing experience and makes the whole site so much easier to navigate!

    I can see references in the code to "sort alphabetically" (which would be very welcome!)... but I can't see the button. Did that function not make it into this version of the script?

    Thanks again!

  • Psycho Fox

    Finally finished Psycho Fox on the Sega Master System (via the Miyoo Mini Plus). A classic, albeit a flawed one.

    I felt some genuine frustration on the infernal sixth level - a combination of Psycho Fox's heavy momentum and the platform game trope of a slippery ice level... ugh. After that, level 7 felt easy.

    I remember this game being much easier when I was a youngster. Curse you, fading reflexes.

    It was also the perfect game to play on the MM+. Having Onion OS game states meant that I never reset the game, so the continue option remained available.

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    Wild Magic (hydro-dipped D6 set)

    This set uses one of my favourite techniques - hydro-dipping (or marbling).

    With this technique, you drip special inks onto the surface of some water to make a pattern, then carefully dip a blank dice down into the water so that the ink folds around it. You then cast the patterned blank in resin to seal it.

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    Demos from Steam's Next Fest?
  • I tried Memori, a Celeste-style platformer with some cool puzzle mechanics. Some of the rooms were super-hard, which made completing them feel very satisfying. It has a chunky-pixel look and controls really well. The front-end UI needs a tiny bit of polish, but other than that I really enjoyed it. Can imagine it'll be popular with speedrunners.

  • An Unfortunate Storm (Petri Pour Set)
  • It didn't take too long - the trick was to work out that you need to use a particular type of ink that is heavier than normal alcohol ink and will cause it to sink. Yeah, we use a pressure pot.

    Our process for this type of set is:

    1. Mix up your base colour and fill the moulds to about 3/4 full.
    2. Alternate drips of normal ink and mixative ink on top of the resin. About 2 of each.
    3. Fill the moulds with base resin, carefully, trying not to disturb the dripped ink.

    Sometimes you end up with heavy drips of ink that settle on the bottom and make large patches. For this reason, we learned quickly that these dice work better as double-cast dice (cast first as blanks, then in full moulds). This puts the splotches "under" the numbers and looks more purposeful.

    You can see the process here: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiFVevkAjBr/

  • The Baron's Collection (D6 set)

    The skulls in these dice were 3D printed on an Elegoo Mars 2 Pro printer and hand painted. Then they were cast in blank dice, then recast in proper moulds.

    We did a run of this design as a full set last year and it proved popular. This time we're doing a run of D6s (for Warhammer/Yahtzee fans!).

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    An Unfortunate Storm (Petri Pour Set)

    I've been lurking and waiting for a dice making community to pop up :)

    Dice making was our "pandemic thing". We just started down that rabbit hole one day and it grew and grew. We ended up making and selling a lot of dice, including this set.

    It's a petri pour set - where you drip various inks into resin and gravity pulls down creeping strands into the dice body while it cures.

    Life has got in the way of making more sets this last six months, but I'm looking for inspiration to get back into it.

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    Lemmings: 8-bit Micro Port Comparison
  • Yeah, I played all the ones I could find a few months ago... there was even an Acorn Archimedes port!

  • Anyone else feel like their body began falling apart in their 20s?
  • This. I entered my forties feeling pretty good physically, no real complaints. I'm leaving my forties feeling like just getting through a day without something new going wrong is a major victory.

  • Lemmings: 8-bit Micro Port Comparison

    I'd love to hear the conversation that took place sometime in the early 90s about converting Lemmings to the humble ZX Spectrum.

    "Sir, we've got this great idea for a Spectrum port!" "Go on..." "It's colourful, mouse-driven, with pixel-level graphic detail and many, many moving characters." "Ummm..."

    Anyway, somehow someone thought it would be possible and it happened. In fact, it happened to all the 8-bit home computers. But, did it end up as a floater or was it led over the edge to die?

    Let's go!

    Screenshot of Amiga Lemmings

    Everyone knows Amiga Lemmings, right? Of course you do... it's almost the Mario of the Amiga scene. Level after level of convoluted, destructible landscapes. A continuous stream of tiny, potentially multi-talented rodents. Some quirky British humour that manifests in things like the self-destruct button or the catchy music...

    It's a game that has aged like fine wine and can still entertain today. If you somehow haven't played it, go dig up a copy today. It's great!

    Screenshot of Spectrum Lemmings

    Uhoh! first and worst of all is the ZX Spectrum. Actually, I found it difficult to know where to place this one. It plays reasonably well, and captures that basic Lemmings-ness. But it looks so... ugh.

    I appreciate the problem. Lemmings requires pixel-level detail; Spectrums can do two colours per 8x8 square. So it is monochrome by necessity. But BOY is it monochrome. It's aggressively monochrome. No nuance or detail. It looks like the Amiga gfx were sampled down to 2 colours and that's it.

    Boo!

    Screenshot of Amstrad Lemmings

    The Amstrad port is better, in looks at least. The graphics are bright and chunky, and the play area is large. What lets this port down is the speed. It's very slow. The "mouse" pointer is unresponsive and sluggish which makes it hard to control.

    Also, the music sounds ever so slightly wrong, to the point where it makes you feel on edge.

    It's not terrible though.

    Screenshot of C64 Lemmings

    Best of the 8-bits is the C64 version. This port has good music, the graphics are nice and detailed, and the game is snappy and controls well.

    What let's this one down is that the play area is kind of squeezed down to a narrow strip in the centre of the screen. For a game that requires you to see what is coming to the left and the right, this means you end up scrolling a lot. Still, it's not a deal breaker.

    So, for 8-bits at least, a C64 win!

    Console port comparison

    There were many other Lemmings ports, of course, most notably to the popular consoles of the day. This isn't a format you'd expect to do well with a generally mouse-based game, but they all turned out pretty good...

    MegaDrive and SNES both got a port. The MD version was my weapon of choice growing up, and it plays really well. The SNES version is similarly good, and both are well worth a look today.

    NES got a port, and it's okay, the worst of the consoles... It seems to play way too fast, which makes even the early levels tricksy.

    Biggest surprise is the MasterSystem. Its port is rad! Looks great, sounds great, plays really well and has some amazingly clear speech samples.

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