I dont trust either of them. Honestly if there werent us citizens their we should probably just stay out of it. On one side you have the oppressive idf and on the other you have people who are not just trying to liberate Palestinians but are also killing people regardless of their copability in their oppression. Why cant we just agree that both are bad?

How has it reached its limit? I just gave two examples of ways it can improve. Voting for the president is not the only thing you can do. You can canvas for politicians or issues you believe in and vote in other levels of the government. I don't get the sentiment of voting doesnt matter so we wont vote. Its a self fulfilling prophecy. We are not heading to hell on earth because there are a lot of people more informed than either of us working on solving all different kinds of issues. I dont understand blaming capitalism for everything. It completely hand waives the nuance of situations and how we can realistically improve them.

progress isnt a continous upward climb in the short term. In the 90s crime shot up and no gay marriage soooo. We can definitely go farther with capitalism like with higher taxes on the rich, minimum base income, etc. Voting does matter, if you dont vote you have no leverage over those who speak for you.

Unions arent an inherent part of capitalism, but they are present in our system and I want that presence to expand. I consider strikes and protests as part of the system. Protesting is a protected right in the US. Yeah I don't know what to tell you, but we do have political power. The votes that are cast are generally reflected in the policy. Why do you think corporations bother making propaganda? They need to make sure people vote the way they want because even corporations understand the influence individuals can have on their business. Change has been and will continue to be made within the system. Does that mean violence will never occur? No. It will, but that violences effect is mostly reflected in the awareness/stance on a issue. Violence is very polarizing. Who was more effective; Martin Luther King or Malcolm X?

You think the issues that are present in todays system are equivalent to slavery? Yes working conditions are a crap shoot, but its not slavery we at least have some safety net systems in place. Also, unions seem to do a pretty good job in places they are implemented.

Yeah I dont see protesting as acting outside the political system. I see it as an important part of it that helps spread awareness as I said before...

? I know there were a lot of actual protest but yeah there definitely was rioting.

Yeah the George Floyd riots did not help that it was very polarizing. What? The point is progress was made through the political system. Yes it was normalized, but those situations are not in opposition to eachother. Usually things become socially acceptable and then they become more legally acceptable.

Isn't that the point of unions? To have leverage over the place you work so they have to treat you right? Strikes and protests are a good way to raise awareness and pressure higher ups to act, but if you don't vote in the goverment system than you have no real leverage over the people who speak for you. True progress? What about gay marriage being legalized across the US? What about the cops who killed George Floyd being convicted of murder? That isn't "true" progress? Yes there have been steps back like Roe V Wade, but progress is not a continuous upward trend in the short term. But I'm pretty sure abortion is not a settled matter in the US and a lot of people don't want it.

I don't really get what you mean by wiggle room. Also are you implying that all positive change related to workers rights entirely centered around strikes/violence without any action by the government?

very enlightening i never thought of it that way

Wealth redistribution is good. Socialism definitely could end up being better than capitalism with the right implementation and regulations. A socialist revolution is a bad idea; wealth redistribution can be implemented in capitalism. Lobbying is real, but voting still makes a difference. Vote in more than just the presidential election and canvas for issues or politicians you support. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.