@PeelerSheila I think that narrows it to 3~5 years

@mondoman712 $24 per vehicle?

That is a joke.

Fines can work, when people expect the fines to actually hurt.

@dankm @veganpizza69 such tech is becoming mandatory, this is a good thing.

@Gorilladrums21 They weren't delivered yet, they are Tesla property.

Protests are only effective if they are disruptive.

@Gorilladrums21 @return2ozma legality does not define morality.

@InternetUser2012 still isn't yours till it's delivered

@InternetUser2012 @theacharnian and it's not 'someone's' it is a corporations, one with $44B to gift someone.

@return2ozma Older Tesla's one can give the owner the benefit of the doubt that they purchased it before Elon showed his true colours. No Cybertruck owner has that defence.

They are lucky it's just paint.

I'm sure paint comes off 'stainless' steel real easy....

@AllNewTypeFace @Baku I'd be less surprised if it was completed before SRL breaks ground

@Baku metro 2 isn't as important as metro 1, but the extra capacity for Mernda will be amazing.

@Baku "Notably, this new tunnel will also include direct transport to Marvel Stadium, with a brand-new underground station at the site. So getting home post-concert or footy should be easier without having to fight for your life on a packed tram."

Southern Cross would like to point out it's proximity to the stadium. It already takes most of the spectators, but another set of platforms will be welcome.

@BadlyDrawnRhino @MHLoppy Yeah, investing in nuclear is okay, but only in addition to adequately funding the faster to market options.

But as we apparently don't have the money do invest in enough cheaper and faster options we clearly don't have the money for nuclear.

And governments shouldn't be subsidising distractions.

@zurohki *funnel all that money to their friends.

@CEOofmyhouse56 a layer of mould is a giveaway.

@zik @Psiczar they apparently think we'll forget how many times they've canned the idea when in power. It is just a convenient lie.

@CEOofmyhouse56 @Seagoon_ its only hoarding if they go off before being finished

@FartsWithAnAccent @JacobCoffinWrites A generally good point to remember is the manufacturers load limit. Exceeding that is probably okay, but remember you have started to enter "hear be dragons territory".

Many regular bikes have a 150kg load limit, w1hich isn't too hard to exceed with a few panniers and a full sized rider (heck, it isn't that hard to exceed with a backpack and a large rider).

Trailers help get around load limit a bit, but when going that way remember the brakes!

@figstick @Tak you probably need a density of more than 1 person per square km. That is where most people live. It is great for most people. Maybe even nearly everyone.

But for the last 0.1% something else is needed.

But even then it might be better to have personal rail vehicles on private tracks (the same tracks the farm should be using for it's produce.

@Tak Or build stations and tracks where so few people will use them.

Building more tracks for everything would be good, but still not an answer for everything.

A world where we only had trains and push bikes would be nice, but not likely to happen.

@Tak @FireRetardant Yes, when a bus route will result in a larger vehicle with 1 occupant they are bad.

That is a very small % of passenger mileage.