@Boomkop3 @rcbrk (Which points out to me that we are plausibly all agreeing in different words)

@Boomkop3 @rcbrk Sounds like a pretty good point in the argument that car dependence is not freedom.

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars All they need to do is say the winning tender will be determined by number of affordable homes it includes.

(Yes I want them to do more than that, but just thinking of minimal things that would work really well)

@eskimofry @IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION Some of us do want cars removed from CBDs.

But good PT leads to less walking for everyone. And should be much better for anyone that needs to use a wheelchair or mobility scooter.

@chiliedogg @daltotron Yes, they have swallowed a lot of lies. A lot needs to change.

@Maggoty @UnderpantsWeevil Melbourne is slowly on it's journey to banning cars in the CBD. I wish we'd do it with a timeline with less decades in it, but each step towards it is good.

So far 2 of 21 pieces of street have been made car free.

@bstix Elon Musk

@Wrufieotnak @hobovision stock images would have worked fine. Or google earth.

@Olgratin_Magmatoe @kurwa I wouldn't go that far. Just because every step is wrong, doesn't make the thought process that weird.

I'm saying we should have compassion for their misunderstanding. The conclusion is wrong, but the path to get there isn't that hard. Particularly when you've been raised in that paradigm (or raised watching media that shows it as the ideal).

@Username @HiddenLayer555 no, the store will just have local customers. And yes there are plenty of those when you can replace the carpark with apartments.

@OsrsNeedsF2P I meant a bigger problem in China

@andrew_s @JackGreenEarth And tags still help things spread further regardless of the federated service they start on.

@Alsephina @Juice Isn't their bigger problem having too many unfinished apartments? Many more than are needed.

(And are those rates including those who own apartments that will never be completed?)

@jaypatelani @ByteOnBikes why make a worse EV?

@HiddenLayer555 @dessalines There isn't much lacking in the Japanese network.

@davel comedy mode: one more track, you wont believe how many more people can use just one more track ;)

@davel Air travel is also demanding on:
* Road infrastructure for the airport, trains deliver people closer to where they want in the first place and the connect better to the rest of the PT system.
* Land use. Airports are huge.
* Airports also cost a lot, factoring them into the price of moving people around is important, frequently this is paid for the state.
* Noisy in ways that just can't be mitigated.

It really isn't a good option.

@dexa_scantron @Never_Daunted park benches that face the shared path, encouraging people to sit and play fetch across the path....

@davel @elgordino the viability is: how do we let people move around the country, what is the cheapest way.

This is cheap.

It's also cheap everywhere else.

And by cheap I mean cheaper than alternatives.

@perishthethought not finding the time to do it