My point is if we down vote with the assumption that a post is from a bot, instead of engaging in good faith with a person who likely has reasons, no matter how misguided, for believing what they do, then we are actually doing the work of our enemies for them
You know what? You're absolutely right about this.
It is too easy to fall into "sounds like a bot, must be a bot" as a mode of operation when it may just be an actual person poking out of an echo chamber for a minute to see what things are like elsewhere. Instantly shutting them down is probably part of WHY there's so much "the leftists are an echo chamber" rhetoric being advanced in right-leaning circles...because that's what that would look like if you were on the receiving end of a downvote for doing nothing more than saying what YOU think is the truth, especially if it's all you've heard and still think noone's lying to you.
I not quite in a spot where I think I can equate downvotes with censorship, possibly because I don't fully understand how lemmy treats them in comparison to reddit, but I will definitely be much more careful with mine.
Thank You.
If any of y'all catch a whiff of criticism, you start screaming "bot" and slamming down votes
And that's not awesome, but...
What's a more productive way to deal with the very real, very extant, very anti-community onslaught of bots and psyop style political manipulators invading lemmy like it's facebook in 2015?
Refuting those bots with fact-checking is all well and good as a form of actual political activism but at what point does giving bad actors who outnumber those with a desire to do good and promote honest discussion become futile? Bots don't tire, mods do.
I want a better solution, too, but when the comments start sounding like bot propoganda, I think it's okay to downvote.
They're processed, yes. The corn is milled, pressed into triangles, coated with preservative-heavy flavor powder and cooked in one order or another, possibly repeatedly.
What makes it ULTRA processed?
Frickin... most raw potatoes are "processed" because they're typically not covered in topsoil when they get put in 5lb plastic bags.
A grass-fed organic, antibiotic free, roaming free-range massaged poterhouse steak is "processed" because it's not still attached to the cow.
I'm trying to understand the definition, here. Almost everything is processed to some degree or another.
Is white flour ultra processed because they bleach and de-hull the wheat berries? Or only when it's made into cake flour? Or do both of those count as "processed" and only "cake MIX" counts as "ultra processed"?
Am I making sense?
Do they?
I don't even know what an "ultra processed food" •IS•.
How is it different than the "processed cheese product" that passes for most individually wrapped "American cheese" cheese slices? Or is that ultra processed?
Are Doritos ultra processed or just the regular kind of processed?
Which kind of ground beef qualifies for "ultra"? Only the pink slime or anything that's been chemically treated?
I'm not being a pedantic contrary asshat, I legitimately do not know what qualifies something to be in this category and why it's worse than normal processing.
Bpa from plastic tubing used in the processing of Annie's organic leeched into the food. Is that considered contamination or a side effect of processing?
I heard Jack O'Neill and Teal'c in my head on this one.
J: Well, tell him unless he cools it, I'm going to throw down!
T: Have you eaten something that does not agree with you, O'Neill?
J: What?
T: Is your digestive system experiencing discomfort?
Daniel Jackson: Yeeeah, this is probably my fault, I explained the euphemism "throwing up" to Teal'c last night after Sam's bout in the infirmary and I'm guessing he thinks the reverse means
J: No!
J: I'm perfectly... Continent.
I personally felt like it was a reference to the complete lack of corporate loyalty to it's employees.
It's hard to have a "career" in the classical sense the way my 90 year old grandparents did.
You can still choose a field of work and if you're lucky you'll get to stay in it for most of your adult life, but between outsourcing in IT, fields being made redundant as technology advances/changes (from cashiers and retail to journalism and marketing, accounting, and phone work) and whole fields of manufacturing work getting shipped overseas, the number of lifelong fields of work available is rapidly shrinking, facing fierce competition for jobs, and becoming a moving playing field faster than most people can retrain for.
"HR" jobs could get halved or more with chatbots providing benefits and payroll adjustment information. "Big data" is doing most of the "market research" that advertisers handled manually 30 years ago.
Big money is still trying to sell us the "career" dream because it leads to the school loan debt they feed off of and temporarily gluts fields with workers to reduce salaries, but only a few handfuls of fields of work really have "career" style options anymore.
I took it not as an insult to the people trying to have one, but as disdain and disgust at how the word gets bandied about like so much bait on a hook when the reality is fastly becoming far different for the 20- and 30- somethings of today.
That might be just me being both charitable and jaded, though.
No, that's GOOD news.
Learning is a good thing.
Fascinating stuff.
Thank you 😊
It looks like a fossilized wasp hive.
Seriously. ^That's the important bit.
I would be shocked if that was on any of the judge's minds, but it's the primary concern in cases of domestic abuse.
Domestic abuser plus gun owner is the "my boyfriend choked me during sex without my consent" red flag for upcoming potential future death.
it's not a guarantee, but it' statistically waaaaaay more likely to end that way.
It's fucking "'til" not "tell".
'til is short for "until".
Please stop saying "Let's wait tell later to do that".
And what kills me is that continually trotting out "for the children" as an automatic "gotcha" watchword lessens the public concern for actual children and muddies the proverbial pond with regards to the actual effective/productive methods for actually protecting children.
There should be a rule about using "think of the children"/"support our troops" where you have to actually be doing something that directly and proportionally affects the group you're referencing in a positive manner commensurate with the amount of money that's being funnelled into the effort.
That and no shilling for cancer research donations just to spend it on yachts and advertising or whatever.
So, this has nothing to do with "think of the children" and everything to do with "we can't harvest encrypted data", right?
Looks like critical thinking deteriorates above 72f/22c
That explains SO many things about the decisions leading up to several of my former employers going bankrupt/getting bought out.
Pay for air conditioning in the office, people! It's science!
:P
At what point do these kind of lies, SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO CURTAIL HIS FURTHER EMPLOYMENT begin to count as illegal?
When does it meet the New York Times v. Sullivan requirement for "actual malice"?
Safe deposit box?
Everyone who has one, I hope.
It's called a Bitcoin "wallet", too. If someone else is holding yours, it's not your money.