Or, maybe, you could keep an open mind and see why she and... Rod Blagojevich Samuel D. Thompson Rubén Díaz Sr (btw, this guy is Puerto Rican I figured I should mention this since people think Trump will... genocide those peoples, or some nonsense) Kwame Kilpatrick Andrew Stein

All other democrats endorsed him.

What a disgusting mentality. I guess you just deny those human's opinions now right? The dynamic of those individuals is now lost to you because they endorsed "big orange scary" - correct? How disgustingly rude of you to those people's dynamic lol.

Could you point me to these encyclopedias? because last I checked the man hasnt been doing half the shit people accuse him of - and he is notoriously taken out of context.

It isnt about the "safe-space" it's about the hasty judgement of someone and banning of them all based on suspicion.

So, say I was anti-Trump and I posted there... I would still be misunderstood as an "other" and labeled, banned, etc. Then have to appeal a ban for a judgement incorrectly pre-passed on me.

Which is, yes, 1000000% the same basis of mentality, the bias of a group, that people do when being racist, sexist, etc. They arent that way for 0 reason, they rationalize stereotypes as truths and then deny the entire group. That is this, in a nutshell.

That was definitely a move in that direction, but one conservative move does not a conservative make. He has done some ratherrrr progressive things too. Some of his ideologies also align to Democratic Party ideologies 2000-2012. (Namely his views on immigration (open, but strict; no more migration) are similar to Obama's). Row v Wade being a 'make this a state's concern' was a weird choice, but it also aligns to the gay marriage ideology of Obama's first term.

i could totally be rusty on some of the above - but, he is way more lenient than a truly conservative man would be. His stance on weed/crypto shock me as they are so progressive.

Yes.. I listed two core differences. Weed is extremely anti religion in many ways lol. Crypto is extremely progressive economical reform. You seemed so shocked by saying "wow" I figured you needed an explanation.

Immigration his thoughts are rather normal on. Migration =/= immigration. I dont think anyone wants migrants to continue spilling into a country that is giving all of its money away...

Yknow before Trump both Obama and Clinton contributed to the border wall? I guess, by your logic, they must be super conservative!

Exactly! But what worries me is that I am beginning to see a lack of this exact understanding more and more. On both sides equally lately too.

I have been labeled a trump supporter for not agreeing with a specific thing. I have been labeled a "kamala communist" all that stuff, for the same in the reverse. I have been banned for hate speech for saying "Yeah this is my field of study, we dont actually do this - it would be dangerous - that is just something you hear politically active" - literally in an "Give me an alternate opinion" subreddit.

It's just like that little short film "Kill All Others" - I am being mistaken for being in the opposite side when really I have not picked a side. This ostracization is becoming more common. Hyperpoliticalization.

You think Trump is a conservative? pro-weed, pro-cryptocurrency (and as Bitcoin, NOT Central Bank Digital Currency) conservative? What lol

He knows that his main appeal is that, but at the end of the day I wouldnt say his policies are truly conservative at all. keep in mind not all repubs are conservative.

Good thing neither Trump or Gabbard are conservative in the slightest...

having private discussion groups is different than banning someone from contribution simply because you think they might be something.

You are inadvertently supporting the same bases of bias that racial segregation came form.

And seeing as how everything is an echo-chamber nowadays, I am not surprised why that filter is established. It isnt always some great-evil yknow.

Who is actually saying this tho?

I agree but with your second paragraph, the question: Por qué no los dos?

Yes, it's kinda ill-natured on both. I dont see why that takes away from another (if that is what you're implying, sorry if I misunderstood).

People get their opinons and info from memes.

It isnt even rare to see people who think trump will cause genocide or evict all citizen mexican-americans... that's nonsensical, and common. It is no wonder that Orange Man Bad is so common when people are told he is bad 24/7 without proper proof or context.

This is also TDS. Buddy, Trump never said (or even cares about) any of that shit.

TDS is Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's two-pronged. The MAGASUPPORTERS HURR, they have TDS. The people who genuinely seem to think Trump will commit genocide, they also have TDS.

I hear it often only used towards the left, but no - the supporters can be just as bad. Those people who think Trump is some god who will save us from pedophile elite, that's also TDS.

No sane person calls someone they disagree with a fascist. That is TDS. I bet you think if Trump wins, gay people will be put in camps and whatnot. All that other alarmist nonsense about project2025 which didnt happen in his prior term. All this saving grace our VP says she will do if elected... that she could just begin right now lol...

I dont really see this as a 180 on their views though. Gabbard was a very moderate democrat, and while trump appeals to conservatives - he is in many ways a very progressive republican (his views on crypto, and weed, are extremely anti-republican...)

Lemmy is a decentralized social community. Maybe Lemmy.world is progressive (and by progressive I mean: censoring communities already lol), but to say the entire mastodon which this relies on is, is foolish.

Ah yes, a limiting label by someone who pretends centrists cant have negative views about one side or the other.

You are proof of concept. I vote Democrat resoundingly, and the one time i didnt it was for Gabbard. But I can still admit that I see this shit way more on the left-hand-side of American Politics.

If I was a democrat who said this would you suddenly label me as a republican? Foolish mentality...

A tantrum? What? Do you always hyperbolize?

Also an automated process to silence a community of people is disgusting morality. Just cause someone disagrees with you doesnt mean you silence them entirely. That's awful.

Do you... genuinely think this woman was a Russian Agent?

What?