@drasglaf Just to clarify, these tools have been passed back and forth among developers and hackers for years, but you kind of had to be in the know. That's how I got mine, it was a trade for an SGI Indigo with someone who used to work for Ozisoft (Sega Australia).

@drasglaf I actually believe these were uploaded very recently. Several months back I hit up Nemesis and asked him if he'd like me to fill out a few sections of his site that were missing tools and documents that I had, and he said he'd already had them but just hadn't had time to upload them. I'm fairly certain those saturn tools which include the cinepak tools were uploaded after I contacted him, as those were a few of the things I was offering.

@drasglaf all these are already backed up on Nemesis' website: http://techdocs.exodusemulator.com/Console/SegaSaturn/Software.html#original-development-tools

@[email protected] i have a copy of the mac software for cinepak, it came with my sega saturn sdk

@Cyth I don't know why people keep bringing up "binding contract." This is not a legal situation at all. It's called not being a jackass dipshit when someone does you a favor, and when you turn around and go against their wishes, you shouldn't be surprised one bit when they don't help you out further.

This dude knew very well the spirit of what was being conveyed to him. "If it's not illegal, it's ok" is social ineptitude. This has nothing to do with legality.

@BrikoX The invitation to the beta says don't discuss it with anybody or you'll have your access revoked. It then tells you a second time when you boot the game "don't discuss this with anybody," which the guy took a screenshot of and claimed it wasn't binding since he hit escape, not ok. Except the idiot forgot that his access isn't promised, it's provisional, and it's 100000000% in valve's right to ban the guy if he's doing the exact opposite of what they asked him *TWICE* not to do.

@BrikoX lol at the writer being immediately banned for his dumb "I totally didn't click ok on the TOS telling me not to talk about this, I pressed esc" schtick, then blaming it on him saying bad things instead of breaking the terms of the beta.

@ampersandrew @mike591 @almar_quigley PC players laugh at the concept

@Tearcell @[email protected] @[email protected] this reminds me of the "body" level from Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars, especially the teeth lol: