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Is Beehaw defederated from VLemmy?
  • AFAIK, beehaw does not agree with open registration from lemmy.world and lemmy.ml, and does not want to take on the added influx of new users interacting with their instance since their registration is closed

  • Ran in where?!

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    How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse)
  • It's not the same. The idea is not to defederate, but to STAY federated, while making your instance seem like the best and only option.

    To extend your analogy, it would be more like if lemmy.world stayed federated, but switched over to its own forked implementation of lemmy. Slowly introducing cool new features that only exist on their fork to entice users away to their instance. Maybe you see a message like "sign up to lemmy.world to see this" or "your instance is not compatible with this". Now you're forcing other instances to either die or play catch up.

    Now obviously the folks at lemmy.world wouldnt do such a thing, because the instance is being run by like minded people who just want to host lemmy. But this is a very real tactic that can be implemented by the likes of google/microsoft/meta.

    Now, Lemmy is AGPL licensed which is a nice safety net, but I'm sure a sufficiently motivated company could try to find ways around it.

  • Is Beehaw defederated from VLemmy?
  • Thanks! But idk if that tool reports everything though. For example if I put in lemmy.world, it says its blocked by beehaw. But if I put in beehaw.org, it doesnt list lemmy.world in its blocking section 🤔

  • Is Beehaw defederated from VLemmy?

    I know Beehaw were having their issues with lemmy.world and lemmy.ml, but I was wondering if they defederated with all open instances, since my subscriptions have been pending for only that instance from here

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    Doesn't the minimum requirement for the first point seem a bit too lax? It still results in a largely closed off instance that is listed alongside the others.
  • I'm not sure this is user dependent considering this is on the admin docs page. For users to subscribe to a community on another instance, that instances admin has to allow federation with the other instance.

    I just feel like the bare minimum is not strict enough; you could theoretically have an almost fully defederated instance while still having a listing and potentially getting user sign-ups from the lemmy home site.

    I could in theory create two such instances, federate only with one popular instance, get both listed, then only federate with each other. Completely diminishes the default experience users will have on signing up to my instances

  • These are the privacy permissions that you grant for Meta's new twitter competitor
  • Why do all of Zucc companies terms and conditions have this air of desperation and grubbiness about them? 😂

    No other services feel as slimy even though they're all doing mostly the same things.

    Meta feels like you're interacting with a drug addicted stalker following you home

  • Doesn't the minimum requirement for the first point seem a bit too lax? It still results in a largely closed off instance that is listed alongside the others.

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    Lemmy faces the same expectations problems as every free/libre software
  • My biggest takeaway with open source projects is this:

    Theres there's a HUGE jump from being power user friendly to being user friendly in general. Significantly bigger than the jump from dev/contributor users to power users.

    UX is something huge companies spend a lot of time and money on to ensure the layman can use the software well, something open source developers do not have the luxury of caring about from the get go.

    Power users do not recognize the inbuilt muscle memory they have acquired over time to get around some of the more nagging aspects of the software and get frustrated with new users for not doing the same, while these new users get frustrated at things not being straightforward, or similar to some other software they're used to.

    IMO this push and pull is what is truly preventing a Linux desktop experience that is truly layman friendly. But when it works, and an open source project can slowly start putting more of their time into UX when the project is more mature, then it truly starts kicking ass.

    Look at how far Blender has come since the 3.0 update. A lot of studios are straight up switching to it for a lot of work that was traditionally Max or Maya based. Obviously you still have some of the "old guard" who felt a little alienated with the sweeping changes from 2.7 to 3, but I feel blender is objectively better for most people since then.

    TL;DR: OSS always deals with different competing needs for power users vs regular users, but given enough time things get smoothened out