It's easy for them to attack the remaining subreddits when half of reddit, bent the knee at the slightest threat of having mod powers removed. Imagine how hard it would have been to do this if a majority of subreddits had stuck together.

1st thing I thought when I heard they were missing is, yep, it was an iceberg.

IDK I guess I kinda hoped that people would realize how stupid and exploitative the whole system of reddit is and the site would get overrun with spam and turned into an archive site. Was very disappointed in that pipe dream.

Damn. That's brilliant.

I have multiple accounts on different instances with different usernames. I wouldn't blink an eye if I lost my post and comment history as I keep a local copy of posts and comments I like and move on. Would love to see a transfer option, but there is something special about packing up and starting over again where no one knows my name or has some preconceived notion about who I am as a person because I wrote an opinion they did not like.

My strategy has been to make multiple accounts on different instances, spread myself across different communities and not to put all my eggs into one basket or get attached to any one community.

Same. The beauty of the internet is the freedom of movement. You can have one account or many accounts across the internet, and it doesn't matter. You can go where you're treated best without tolerating the bullshit of a platform or instance if it does not suit you. Speaking of news, RSS feeds have been my greatest ally in sourcing decentralized information that I choose.

Parts of this comment squeezed me out. o.O It reminds me of an encounter I had with someone who confessed they were a closet pedo, who did not act on their fantasies but wanted to. At the time I was studying psychology with the goal of helping pedophiles not offend or reoffend, but after this particular encounter my entire career choice was shaken. This person ended up finding a community of pedophiles who told them they were not wrong for their desires, or acting upon their desires so long as children were consenting (which obviously required GROOMING). There was nothing I could say to convince this person that this was illogical and wrong. I was so sickened by it, and remain sickened by it. What particularly hurts is that law enforcement did nothing, even when I warned them and his family that there was a girl he had his sights on. I am very upset now thinking about it, as this would not be my first encounter with corrupt or inadequate law enforcement or judges.

I don't know anything about the loli community - but any community that labels their work pedo, and starts talking about the possibility of children consenting are not just sick, but dead to me. I'll play devil's advocate and argue that people can wank off to a fake drawing of a fake person and I don't give a damn. But my personal line is when people start talking about the possibility that a child can consent and start advocating for that.

@Falmarri, I agree with a lot of your points. I don't think it is that there can't be opinions separate from the norm, but that pedophilia is a very sensitive and painful topic - and anything that reminds people of something that is that painful will trigger namecalling, rage and illogical conversations that just go nowhere because there is that much emotion involved. I would be somewhat caught off guard if people as a whole weren't emotional about it. I know as a survivor of SA, who has been receiving treatment for PTSD since I was in single digits, that the conversation is a difficult one for a lot of people, myself included. I strongly feel based on my work trying to prevent SA and supporting survivors, that there are things for me to be angry about in this world...a person wanking off on a drawing, who NEVER offends, is not something I am going to get worked up over.

IMHO People are going to have fantasies. But there is a very big difference between having a fantasy and acting on those fantasies, and most of society cannot see that difference, or the hypocrisy when they make their arguments. To say that a rape fantasy or game violence is somehow not as abhorrent as fantasizing with someone underage. Really? That disconnect to me is disgusting and vile, that people would honestly argue that even looking at a drawing of someone underage is evil (which in their rightful opinion is), but a bullet to the brain, or assaulting a cop in a video game before hijacking a vehicle isn't equally sick. At that point their argument loses a lot of merit for me, and I have to work really hard to listen.

@Falmarri, I agree with a lot of your points. I don't think it is that there can't be opinions separate from the norm, but that pedophilia is a very sensitive and painful topic - and anything that reminds people of something that is that painful will trigger namecalling, rage and illogical conversations that just go nowhere because there is that much emotion involved. I would be somewhat caught off guard if people as a whole weren't emotional about it. I know as a survivor of SA, who has been receiving treatment for PTSD since I was in single digits, that the conversation is a difficult one for a lot of people, myself included. I strongly feel based on my work trying to prevent SA and supporting survivors, that there are things for me to be angry about in this world...a person wanking off on a drawing, who NEVER offends, is not something I am going to get worked up over.

IMHO People are going to have fantasies. But there is a very big difference between having a fantasy and acting on those fantasies, and most of society cannot see that difference, or the hypocrisy when they make their arguments. To say that a rape fantasy or game violence is somehow not as abhorrent as fantasizing with someone underage. Really? That disconnect to me is disgusting and vile, that people would honestly argue that even looking at a drawing of someone underage is evil (which in their rightful opinion is), but a bullet to the brain, or assaulting a cop in a video game before hijacking a vehicle isn't equally sick. At that point their argument loses a lot of merit for me, and I have to work really hard to listen.

I would also rather you not glorify blowing anyone up/putting a bullet in someone's head who resembles a real human being in addition to people not jacking off to someone resembling a child.

I feel like people minimize video game violence as if it is any less bad then getting off on a drawing. People minimize the violence in games where we glorify killing people and don't talk about the repercussions of war and the violence - real war with refugees and results of total annihilation like Syria.

War is no joke, violence is no joke, and killing people is just as bad as pedophilia - REAL pedophilia. But just like shooting someone in the head in a video game or burning a village down in a video game doesn't translate to someone in real life wanting to hurt other people, looking at drawings does not mean someone is going to act out on the drawings they see. Fantasies do not equate to hurting others. There are plenty of people out there who have rape fantasies, they may write about it, they may roleplay with their partner, but that does not mean they WANT to be raped or assaulted in real life and it gives no one a license to do that to them against their will. Fantasies are fantasies, that is all they are, and the few sick fucks who act on their fantasies are 100% different from the people who never do.

In case no one got the memo the world is run by pedophiles and human traffickers. Top politicians, entertainment industry, corrupt judges, bankers, the elite. Our entire world is morally questionable. I'm just not going to get worked up over fake children in fake worlds, when there are real children being hurt who need my outrage more.

As a side note, do video games normalize violence? Because if we are going to use the argument that people looking at drawings normalizes and endorses harmful desires then we really need to have the discussion about video game violence.

I mean your not lying. On Mastodon I saw posts about people deleting accounts with thousands of karma, lot's of people with positive reputation in their communities left, and the people who remained either are not active posters or don't really care.

Damn ++ making this comment so I can save this comment. This is the boat I'm in.

Personally, my goal is to set aside the time to post or comment on the most interesting, informative, helpful tutorials that cannot be found here. To scrape reddit data via RSS and if it's interesting and not on lemmy or kbin see that it is mirrored here, so that it has the same plus more content. Getting lemmy and kbin results to show up in search results. If there is a way to improve the webui I would like to be part of it, if not the development part then at least the conversation. I'd donate $$s to make this place look and feel better than it does.

But posting on reddit...I had already stopped or reduced posting due to how often I was downvoted for not following the grain, or my replies not showing up or being deleted automatically. Some forums telling me I could not vote because my karma was too low but karma always getting deducted because I didn't think the same way as the majority subreddit. Here is the first time where I haven't been less afraid to speak...where I can be upvoted/downvoted and it doesn't even matter. Reddit is dead to me, and I will never cross-post interesting information to it except to say come join us in developing an alternative - and I can't even be bothered to do that.

I thought about this, I was 100% surprised that mods didn't plan for it as soon as Spez said he would do it.

I don't know how to save the posts that really resonate and reground me outside of commenting on it. This is one of those posts. Thank you.

I am very new to kbin, and have not figured out how to get that link to bring me back to kbin so that I can login and comment without making an account in lemmy.world. A lot of the points mentioned in that thread suggest taking a higher ground. Before I stepped into this thread I definitely was for razing them to the ground and rallying to create hell - but the mixture of positive vibes here as mellowed me out. In reddit, people who disagreed in mass would have been downvoted into oblivion and I would have only saw people who swung one way or another, but here I really get to see the perspective of multiple people. It's refreshing.

I was thinking about that. In theory if I can see it, what is stopping a bot from grabbing it. I notice when I use search engines they have no problem seeing what is inside reddit - so there has to be a way to create a bot that does this. I'm just not programmer savvy in that way to know how it works.