[Discussion] Should we defederate exploding-heads.com? (Closing arguments)
[Discussion] Should we defederate exploding-heads.com? (Closing arguments)
Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).
It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.
My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you're not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.
I've linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325
Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.
https://lemmy.world/post/747912
https://lemmy.world/post/577526
Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.
Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.
TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.
EDIT: To clarify, this isn't the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.
EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.
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I vote for defederation.
Just looked at them, and to be honest, it is pathetic. Their uhh... interesting interpretations of the Bible, and that they dismiss the arguments of people who have the opposite political viewpoints. This, in my view, is unacceptable. They (the alt-right, which seems to be the primary users of the instance) really only want to humiliate left-of-centre people. And when humilitation is the goal, that is not an opinion, that is hate.
sh.itjust.works should not federate with (show content of) instances that is completely dismissive and hateful of a group of people.
I also think that defederation should only be used against extreme cases of botswarming, which is something that looks to be happening: 6727 total users against 108 active in the last month, and 139 in the past half-year.
They also have a community called "pedophilia" which is ostensibly against it but at the same time naming and hosting a community that is really weird.
that kinda made me uncomfortable ngl
Agreed
Are they filling it with posts about LGBTQ "groomers"?
Haven't taken a look but based on recent right/alt-right rhetoric, that's the sort of nonsense I would expect.
Who wants to play risky community content gamble?
I didn't really stick around enough to find out. Honestly that community name alone might be reason for defederation. No one has federated it here yet but I don't ever want to see that in my new feed.