Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private
Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private
More pressure from Reddit.
Reddit is sending strongly-worded messages to moderators of some protesting subreddits that indicate the company may take actions to remove moderators or reopen communities.
I hope the protesting mods quit and move to lemmy.
I really hope they lose tons of users
Some have.
You can take a look at which subs have "official" presences elsewhere here.
For example, I moderated /r/Disneyland, and we're now over here at [email protected] (search https://kbin.social/m/Disneyland if that link doesn't work for you on Lemmy, or @Disneyland on Kbin).
We do maintain a presence on Reddit. Although I personally avoid the site now, not all the others on the mod team feel the same, and some are still confused by the fediverse. We were closed for about a week before Reddit threatened to replace the mod team. At that point, we were afraid of a couple things:
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An inactive mod messaging the admins, becoming a scab, and removing the rest of the mod team. While most of us were in communication, there were some mods who were radio silent. Other places were seeing these scab mods get the top mod spot and decapitate the protest, forcing out all the remaining mods.
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If that didn't happen, there's another mod team of the WDW subreddit who is on bad terms with basically every other Disney sub. The WDW sub was cooperating with the admins, and there was a fear that Reddit would replace our entire mod team with theirs, where they'd be free to ban users randomly and spread COVID misinfo. Reddit was beginning to replace mod teams with ones from similar subreddits, so it was a real risk.
We considered different ways to protest. My idea was "only allow pictures of members of the Disney family standing on land. Ban any pictures of them in the water or on ladders." But the top mod was spooked when she saw that Reddit was replacing entire mod teams, so she called for a full reopen with normal operations. However, we also linked to our Kbin magazine in the sidebar/announcement sticky and are now maintaining 2 communities in parallel so that if Reddit has another exodus we can have an established community already.
A lot of other mods are in the same boat. I've been in communication with the other mods in the protest, and the main problem is that different subreddits have different needs. The lack of AutoMod on both Lemmy and Kbin is a problem, and Kbin's API is currently read-only so an AutoMod bot can't even be made (but it is theoretically possible on Lemmy I think).
There are also concerns about confusion among users - see how I had to put the same link in 3 different ways when I said what community I mod? Lemmy has 2 different formats for links (depending on if someone in that instance is subscribed or not) and Kbin has a third (plus Kbin currently doesn't support Lemmy-style links). Kbin is fixing this in their next update; I dunno if Lemmy has plans to fix it as well.
But the point is that this stuff is fixable, and Reddit is almost certainly going to do something dumb again. Digg didn't die right away either, but there was a moment where there was an obvious sea change - and we're seeing the same thing with Reddit now. Lemmy/Kbin will get better with time, whereas Reddit will only get worse. It's important to get ahead of the curve and be ready for next time.
The drama between DL and WDW is interesting to me and also pretty disappointing. I live on the east coast so DL is a much bigger hike than WDW for us, but I’d much rather support a community that fits my views of how social platforms should treat their users. Have you or the other DL mods considered a WDW community here on the fediverse? Perhaps a larger Disney Parks community?
Also generally curious why you and the other mods continue to care about what happens to your subreddit? Reddit and their admins have made it pretty clear the value they place in volunteer mods, what value is in it for the engaged mod team on Reddit at this point? If the WDW mods want to come in and cause havoc, at least you have an active community here that you can maintain without fear that admins are going to take their ball and go home.
But saying you and your mod team are wrong, just looking to understand the motives and drives.
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Hope? Many of us are already here. When they turn off the API tap, I am necessarily cut off from the rest of Reddit because I use it during the in-between times on my phone via Apollo.
Yup I'm gone too, deleted my main account a couple of weeks ago, and my secondary I nuked yesterday.
I find it funny how Reddit is willing to throw away decades of good will for what they claim is a small percentage of their user base.
Just goes to show why social media companies are trash
Funny what happens when companies are driven by ego and the almighty dollar.
stop posting about reddit. let it die and move on.
Lets fix are user revolt problem by removing users in exchange for paid employees. That will fix the problem.
Step 1 - Chase away all the passionate unpaid workers that provide top quality content for FREE
Step 2 - Replace them with dispassionate paid workers that'll do the bare minimum while costing you a lot more money than free.
Step 3 - p̵r̵o̵f̵i̵t̵? Take a big unnecessary loss that you could have easily avoided by being even just a little bit reasonable.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.