House security system - any recommendations?
House security system - any recommendations?
Hey all.
So I was asked recently to look into security systems for their house. I was wondering if some of you have experiences, resources, and recommendations I can base my research on. What could be things to look out for?
Their basic requirements are: a window opening alarm; the same for the door; and a camera system with at least one camera, but maybe more (sorry for not knowing the technical terms of each... :P).
Now, I don't want to recommend anything that relies on a remote server, especially not for the camera feed. Not only for privacy reasons, but I'm also afraid that the system is e-waste, if the service ceases to exist in the future (i.e. because the company goes away or the service is not profitable anymore). I also have some experience with setting up a home assistant instance with a camera and motion detectors, but I'm still a bit hesitant to whether I want to set up (and then probably also maintain and being responsible for it to work) their system. I'm fairly certain they wouldn't be able to do that by themself.
Maybe there is such a all-in-one, offline solution already? I could probably get myself to setting up a Raspberry Pi with Tailscale or something similar, as this seems low maintenance and high reliability.
Curious to hear your opinions. :)
-mx
I'm a bit too late to the party, but i will tell you about what i use.
I use a wireless IP camera from Reolink. You can use any camera really.
Then I purchased a license for Blue Iris, so i have that running on my computer downstairs.
Blue Iris is so under-rated. Its really good, there's a setting for anything you can think of and quite advanced motion detectors.Hell, it can even detect license plates!
Thank you for the suggestion regarding the hardware. Two follow-up questions:
- Would you mind letting me know the model of the camera you're using?
- Blue Iris sounds awesome! But it also sounds like quite a bit of compute is required to run it. Is that true? Or could I also run in on a RPi, maybe even with Coral AI stick?
This might be an unpopular opinion but I wouldn't trust my security on a free piece of software running on an raspberry pi. You would be best using a regular off the shelf alarm system, I'm sure you can still get ones that aren't Internet enabled
As a contract security manager… the pi system is better than many off-the-shelf systems. One thing to keep in mind is that you absolutely want to control the data you generate. Every cloud service (ring, etc) will provide free and basically immediate access to your data. This includes if they think YOU are guilty of something. Or if they just tell them you are because their sister/daughter/wife/whatever smiles at you in the park.
If you keep data, they can still subpoena it, and you’d still be obligated to hand it over, but it comes with a lot more paperwork and oversight.
Whatever you go with, software should be open source. Especially if it’s internet connected. This allows third party validation of what is actually happening. Here is a guide on r-pi to create door alarms. You can probably configure something using a pi pico w fire quite a bit less, however, and send it back over a network for reporting. You’d still have to power it, though.
The issue with door alarms is… so you get the alarm, what do you do then? Unless you have some way to review prior video (5-10 minutes, if you get an alarm.) and those cameras show the device in alarm, you have no real way of knowing what’s going on. You’re certainly not going to run home every time.
Most door alarms are false alarms, triggered by people forgetting their code or kids just being kids, etc. calling the cops (or paying a service to call the cops,) is a bad idea.
There’s plenty of guides on pi cams, and those are more useful- you’ll want complete coverage- which means broadly all sides of your house, with close shots on the doors, back gates or shed doors. maybe windows.
One or two cameras are less useful. A hoodie, cap or obstruction can evade that. And in any case cameras are passive systems. They tell you what happened, they don’t stop anything from happening.
The single most effective device is a deadbolt lock on all exterior doors, and bar locks for sliding doors. If your dealing with porch pirates, a chest with padlocks they can then lock (or purpose built chest,) will deter most (but if they really want it, they’ll get it.)
So what I get from this is the following:
- definately no Ring, etc. products that save videos feeds in the cloud
- use RPis running an open source software as a "backend" for the cameras (in the best case this records continuously, and deleting everything older than 5-10 minutes, or records on movement)
- aim for full coverage with cameras
- if everything runs locally only, VPN is required to get live feed if something triggers
Do you also happend to have any suggestions regarding software and hardware? I'm not sure if relevant, but I'm in Germany, so cameras like Wyze V2 (which can run RTSP software, iirc), might not be available...