Canada @lemmy.ca Ulrich_the_Old @lemmy.ca 1y ago

Pro Choice options....

I think we should set up abortion clinics at every Canada/Us border crossing. This could be a real money maker.

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If the woman who travels to Canada to get an abortion, and faces legal issues at home because of that, then they should be able to claim refugee status.
- Agreed. That's the kind of immigration I can get behind.
Which of the border states even ban it?

Washington definitely doesn't here on the west coast.
- Only a few according to these maps. And in those cases, residents would probably better going out of state instead of out of country. And even if those resident who went out of country, I would expect only a minority would arrive via land boarders.
I'm all for women's right to choose. How would we make money, I think we'd essentially be funding US medical treatments, which I'm ethically fine with, but would prefer to have my taxes go towards things for Canadians.

My understanding is that we can't have a private system along side the public system without "funding" the private system by WTO rules. Besides the fact that running a private system beside a public system is parasitic (i.e. we are assuming an infinite supply of doctors and nurses).

I think we should probably focus on paying our existing nurses and doctors better, and getting our hospitals back in working order.
- , I think we’d essentially be funding US medical treatments, which I’m ethically fine with
  
  Canada maintains a rate structure for non-residents needing healthcare while in Canada. (Hint: Get your travel insurance)
- An American can get an abortion now at the existing clinics in Canada if they want, and if there is availability, they just have to pay for the procedure because they wouldn't be covered under the provincial health plan.
- If you're not covered by provincial insurance, you pay out of pocket.
Are there any anti-choice states that border us? Maybe North Dakota but that's the only one I can think of and I'm not even sure about their stance on abortion
I’m all for being there for our neighbours, but I believe we have a lot of mess in our own kitchen to clean up before we do that.
- Providing abortion services for Americans does not cost us as they would have to pay.
  
  However, IMHO OP's plan is silly and misguided. Most boarding states allow for abortion, and those that don't are closer to states that allow for abortion. The vast majority of states that restrict abortion are in the south, and the population who live under abortion restrictions are even more skewed south. This means even if people needing abortions wanted to come to Canada, they'd be more likely to enter at airports instead of land boarders.
  
  Building and maintaining the infrastructure absolutely costs us money. And for-profit healthcare is abhorrent in any fashion.
- Doesn't this solve our immigration problem? We can begin to import (presumably) highly educated people into the country who may be more comfortable living in somewhere that's not Vancouver/Toronto (given that they're coming from the US).
  
  Canadian currently living in the US here. The problem is that these high skill jobs usually pays close to double in the US after taking forex into account. More than enough to pay for the extra cost for healthcare. Not to mention our healthcare system back home isn't in it's best shape at the moment. If some of these folks don't like their red state politics, they can easily move to a blue state instead of Canada where they're likely to get a massive pay cut.
Lets turn the border into a slaughter house? Really bro? Your fucked in the head.
- Slaughter house? How do you think abortions work? First and second trimester is just an abortive drug. My wife was prescribed them for her miscarriages.

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