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Hexbear Discussion Round 2

I figured since their admin has asked them to stop participating over here it may be worthwhile to get a new discussion going that is primarily blahaj. I'm almost certain they'll still be upvoting so keep that in mind as that may skew things. Worthwhile to check in from instances that have already defederated them. The previous thread definitely left a bad taste in my mouth but what do y'all think?

Old thread can be found here


EDIT: With regards to the post on new federation guidelines here: https://hexbear.net/post/352119

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Every instance that has talked shit and got dogpiled should be thanking us for breathing some life into their dead and boring ass websites.

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  • I've said almost all I care to on this matter except to point out that it has taken less than a day for a Ukrainian war related post to appear on 196 and for hexbear "Marxist Leninists" to start proudly proclaiming their pro Russia opinions. You give these people a platform by staying federated and they will do this, and whether or not you consider their opinions to be offensive is somewhat subjective (I do) they are at the very least a major vibe killer. Anyways, I was right and if this shit keeps popping up in my feed I'm out, peace.

    • Yeah I'm a strong supporter of Ukraine in that conflict not just for political reasons.

      I know 3 people who's lives have been massively impacted by it; a friend who went home to defend his home who has been unreachable for a year, a friend who lost his whole family less than a month into the conflict, and a friend who now has his parents and younger brothers living with him because they fled Russia when it all kicked off.

      To say I have strong opinions about the conflict is a bit of an understatement.

      • I'm so sorry about your friends. At this point the admin has made it clear they have no problem with this behaviour. Literally making excuses for and handwaving a cryptofascist state ravaging one of its smaller neighbours doesn't constitute harassment.

        It doesn't seem possible to me that you can maintain a safe and inclusive space for all queer people while allowing a minority to engage in war apologism and all other manner of Soviet themed, larper bullshit. I really don't want to actually try to address why what they're doing is inexcusable because frankly they live for that kind of engagement, but its fucking shameful that this has become an issue at all, let alone a permanent feature of the community.

        I really hope that your friends stay safe.

        • Hexbear literally has a community for organizing dogpiling and brigading (even Ada mentioned it) and Ada's only problem was when it was used on them and their community†.

          That's not behavior that should be condoned by our community.

          By not condemning it it makes us look like we support that idea, which could easily lead us to being defederated by choosing to associate with Hexbear still.

          I don't want to see our friendly instance get defederated because our admin won't defederate from an openly abusive instance.

          Edit: † By community here I mean specifically the meta post, and if it's used in other spaces frequented by queer folk against queer folk.

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