Removed from Reddit because?
Removed from Reddit because?
Edit: apparently they're posters you can download https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1KPaA4jNHcWLFNbjl4M1Q5HxXROnZtYXd
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Fuck reddit.
Hell yeah brother.
Hey, how about we leave the needless gendering of everything on reddit maybe? Gentle reminder that not everything needs to be gendered and (especially on Lemmy) there are lots of folks who might be put off in some way by this, because it feels very much (at least to me) like something (particularly white cishet) dudes say to each other and not something that applies to folks of all genders and communities, like "friend" for example. Not trying to imply that you are any of those things (even someone who is okay being called dude, I'm not calling you that, intending to be giving a vibe on the statement without judging you) just that that's what I think of when I see that and I wouldn't necessarily mind if someone said it to me (especially in person; I'm currently masc presenting at the least, not sure yet where I actually land) but thinking of others who might feels like something that happens on Lemmy that differentiates the community at large from reddit. Not saying it's always like that, check my recent comments if you want to see examples of how some folks are def still trolling here, but it's better and I hope we can continue to wear that diversity and respect as a badge of honor sort of.
Sorry dude, these are commonly used expressions for like the last 60 years man. Why don't you just enjoy the wide range of words used to communicate between humans friend? The history of our language. Hell ya brother should be read in the voice of Macho Man Randy savage. It adds some flair to the words when the reader understands the context.
We should try to celebrate diversity instead of enforce conformity. Especially when it comes to communicating and language.
enforce conformity
I don't see where I said I would like to enforce anything, please point out exactly what you're referring to. [1]
We should try to celebrate diversity
Yeah, that's what I said too, when I was explaining in a very clear and solutions focused way to someone else the ways they can, you know, actually do that by respecting folks who may feel left out when it's so common to assume everyone is a man behind a computer, which is the opposite of "celebrating diversity".
dude
man
This feels intentionally (and unnecessarily) disrespectful after I just made it clear I do not think that type of language is inclusive to everyone.
should
Why don't you just enjoy
We should
Please don't talk to me that way. I'm very happy with my life and don't need to be told what to do or enjoy.
It adds some flair
Nothing wrong with flair.
when the reader understands the context
Yeah that's the problem. Not every reader will immediately understand that context, and if they don't, in this example specifically just for a hypothetical, say because they're gen-z (too young to get the ref) or autistic (more direct communication is better understood) or something, they may think this is just some place where everyone assumes everyone else is a man or a dude, like reddit.
The history of our language.
Hwæt, hwæt þu ne spræce swā gif þu þearft on gemyndum habban þæs þe ær gewāt?
ETA: Footnotes since y'all are so intent on misunderstanding:
- More specifically, I didn't say that they should change the comment, or use any language that can (IMO) be reasonably interpreted as trying to "enforce" anything. My intention is as stated: a gentle reminder of what makes the community feel cohesive and inclusive to me and I'm certain there are others who feel the same way.
With the rise of authoritarianism, I feel like this is the exact kind of behavior that pushed enough people to the far right to get trump elected.
Did you ever stop and wonder if you put these tireless crusades down perhaps we wouldn't all be threatened by our own government right now?
Don't worry about me friend, I'm looking after my community and my loved ones and myself, but you are right that authoritarianism is the real threat, and the best way to counter that is community organizing, which is what I spend my time doing. Not saying that because I feel the need to tout my accomplishments, I feel I have a very healthy self image. But you do seem confused about where to direct your efforts so just so you know, that's what I recommend.
Well do focus on the tone when organizing in the community. You should be analyzing your messaging to make sure its effective and reaching the widest amount of people it can.
What you've shown me is a fragile ego and an inability to take criticism. As well as a narrow focus on inconsequential formalities that will only alienate the general public. So I beg thee to consider your approach to what ever organizing you are doing and ask yourself if it represents the people you are trying to protect.
telling me how to organize
tone policing
should
"What you've shown me is a fragile ego and an inability to take criticism"
🤭
Edited to add: if you honestly see that from my words and behavior here, what you've shown me is a lack of empathy and I have no more words for you.
I just love how in a thread about removing comments on reddit you reported and removed a comment offering you some healthy criticism. And you still don't believe you have a fragile ego. You're strawmanning everyone on this thread.
hahaha reported my comment ahhh just like reddit. Good luck organizing in person. I'm sure you will be well liked =D
Are we going to cancel idioms too because ESL folks will get comically lost without context? Or should we use idioms and explain them or allow google to do such? Are we going to draw the line on broken english which can be easy to misunderstand as well? Just seems like a weird line to draw right now.
Popculture references are always going to be an important part of communication. I enjoyed learning the context of 1960-1970s lingo my parents used. If it's so important to you, add some polite context about under the comment for people to understand. I believe your OP comment was asking for us to leave the gendered language on reddit, and I don't think its a fair request to ask people to change how they communicate to conform with what you precieve makes others more comfortable.
This feels intentionally (and unnecessarily) disrespectful after I just made it clear I do not think that type of language is inclusive to everyone.
Congrats, you got the point of why they did it! They don't care that you think it isn't inclusive because you don't dictate what is and isn't inclusive. Male pronouns being used as gender-neutral ones is very old, and you sound exactly like the weirdos who can't handle "they" as a pronoun for a person
Again: you don't get to enforce conformity my guy
Again: you don't get to enforce conformity my guy
Again: please show me where I said anything that even suggests that. My language was as respectful as possible and most folks who are not assholes wouldn't take issue with it. Y'all are actually trying to tell me that I don't get to say what feels inclusive to me, and that's literally trying to enforce conformity, my guy.