Canada's incoming prime minister says he'll meet Trump if Canadian sovereignty is respected
Canada's incoming prime minister says he'll meet Trump if Canadian sovereignty is respected
Incoming Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney says he’s ready to meet with U.S. Donald Trump if he respects Canadian sovereignty and is open to talk about a common approach to trade.
“I am ready to sit down with President Trump at the appropriate time under a position where there is respect for Canadian sovereignty and we are working for a common approach, a much more comprehensive approach for trade,” Carney said.
This is the way. Leaders need to stop entertaining the orange idiot. He's the shitty kid that breaks stuff to get attention. Trump needs a time out.
I like Iran's attitude. They said "Whatever. Do what you're going to do." and didn't bother having more of a conversation.
This is what Canada needs to do.
Shumer/Democrats are signaling supporting a budget that includes the provision of unchecked trade war powers for Trump: Never allowing congress to question national emergency validity, or any other provocation he makes. The "Only one man:Trump is responsible for war on Canada" becomes false when full US political establishment throws support behind it.
Carney should be visiting Mexico and China (Russia and North Korea visits better than no visits) instead of "waiting for respect". Extreme failure of last government was limiting contacts with US and its other colonies. Cancelling or "Reviewing" military cooperation/purchases with US should be an immediate announcement. Panama just took every US demand up their bodies, and still got "Pentagon drawing up plans for invading Panama" because it might get massive foreign funding of projects in the country.
He added he respects Trump’s concerns for American workers and about fentanyl.
I wish the world outside the US trumpist media bubble would stop parroting this obviously bullshit "concern" about fentanyl. Drug addiction in the US is not a result of foreign agents. It is a mental health problem with social and economic roots. If fentanyl disappears today, it will be replaced by something else tomorrow. The trumpist framing of the issue is not only a bullshit pretext to circumvent USMCA but also actively hurts addicted people and their families. It's just shit. Stop touching the shit folks.
Canada isn't a sovereign state? They're an extension of the crown of the UK. Am I missing something here?
Yeah, your brain.
Canada is a sovereign state, because it has its own constitution and government. It is true that King Charles III is the head of the Monarchy but that is inconsequential and for all intents and purposes, irrelevant.
Ain't gonna happen
Trump wants Canada for whatever reason it is and he won't let go. I fully expect him to threaten (and execute) with military actions if Canada doesn't capitulate
Maybe a cynical point of view but we're talking about idiots with access to nukes that won't give up
Steve Bannon actually explained the reasons why Trump wants Canada so bad, and it's actually pretty "rational". I don't want the US to take over, but we need to understand just how much they would gain if they annexed us.
- More access points to the melting Arctic cap and all the untapped resources underneath
- More liberties to plant military bases across the north of the continent, to secure what is seen as the soft underbelly of North America
- All the other resources, all of our expertise, all of our hydro-electric potential
Mind you, this also explains the weird obsession with Greenland. There are military thinkers that want to create a defensive position out of the newly freed strait that will manifest north of Canada, and Greenland/Canada are key positions to do this.
It's dangerous to hand wave this as a weird and quirky tantrump, there's some really greedy fuckers across the border and they want direct dibs on the Arctic.
They can have most of that with a sovereign Canada as an ally. If they try to take that by force, it will end up like Afghanistan. But 100x worse. All their little plans will be sabotaged into oblivion by guerrilla warfare, and their own civil war it will cause. It will trigger the fall of the American Empire
Oh I know that they have these very rational reasons and wasn't trying to rationalize it away. I just wanted to point out that cheeto isn't going to back down because he's also a crazed fucker who doesn't give a fuck
Defence from who? The Russians? They're already inside the White House hahaha!
How much of that stuff would Canada and the US have done together anyway because we're conjoined twins?
Other than that weird businessman thing of "it's not ALL OURS" I don't see the point. We already do joint military operations with Canada defending the arctic, to include NORAD. If climate change makes the ice cap a more viable land or sea route to attack North America, I'd count on our two nations to work together to counter that. I have to imagine we have submarines in the Arctic anyway.
We've already got as much of the Great White North as we can handle in Alaska to drill/mine/log. I don't need ownership of Toronto to do that.
Now as for sea routes, this one I think is interesting. Because in addition to Canada and Greenland, the diaper in chief has mentioned re-acquiring the Panama Canal. The thing there is, the Panama Canal has had to operate at decreased capacity because Lake Gatun can't take it; the canal is draining too much water from the lake, which the entire nation of Panama needs to live. The "grow at all costs" business sector loves to ignore things like "the canal is going to physically stop working because the lake will be empty, and also it will render the entire nation of Panama unsurvivable due to lack of water" so I'm sure the billionaires pulling Trump's strings want the canal forced to run at max capacity no matter what, and we can't do that while the Canal is under Panamanian ownership because the nation of Panama isn't going to kill itself for some boats full of buttplugs and slogan T shirts.
So less shipping traffic has been able to pass through the canal. So more traffic bound from the Atlantic to the Pacific or vice versa needs to go around The Horn. Or for just one time, you can take the Northwest Passage, and find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea. A lot of the Northwest Passage lies in Greenland...ish? Greenlandese? Greenlandian? or Canadian territorial waters.
Or it's a way for a shithead to be a shithead. We are talking about the same guy who "made" Mexico pay for that wall.
He’s not getting Canada. He’s gonna have a toddler tantrum and that’s all that will happen.
I fully expect him to threaten (and execute) with military actions if Canada doesn't capitulate
Insert article 5 turning the US into a hostile country and the millions of Canadians (who coincidentally look like Americans) with their new-found American citizenship & right to bear arms.
Going to feel so liberated!
terrorism everywhere, everyday
Nope, Uno Reverse, we surrender and the US is the UC and your government has to fix all our problems. No takesy-backsies!
I’m just hoping the chaos he’s causing internally will take down the USA sooner than he can invade.
That might very well happen yeah
They will not survive a war with Canada. We won't beat their military in direct combat but the insurgency right next door which can easily cross into their homeland, hit some of their most populous cities, and hide easily in Canadian wilderness, would end way faster than Afghanistan and Vietnam with the same outcome
Yes there'll be suffering on both sides, but it's suicide. I'd rather he accomplishes that another way but fuck it
He wants our resources and, as the premier of BC said: if the president's so interested in Canadian water, we're gonna help him by letting him keep his watery beer.
How is American beer like sex on a beach?
spoiler
Fucking close to water
We'll be waiting for those orange fuckers!
Love your enthusiasm, but a US invasion would overrun and utterly destroy Canada. We'd fuck them for the next ten years and make them regret every life choice they made during that time until they see the wisdom of running, like they've done in every invasion since WWII but it will utterly destroy the country
I don't want that, I just want to live my nice little life.
I hope he refers to him as president donald and won't use his brand name
I saw a reference the other day to him as yam tits which is the single best moniker anyone could come up with.
There are truly so many good ones. I've never before seen such extensive creativity in name calling. It's something I go out of my way not to do with almost anyone else. But while I still try to keep things tame, it feels like I'm dishonoring myself and respectable Canadians any time I use Dumpster's real name.
He won't but I'd like to see Mark act like Charlie, call him Donald like a teacher chastising a student
He could call him President Musk, because isn’t that the truth?