I miss when you could get a flagship phone that could fit in your hand
I miss when you could get a flagship phone that could fit in your hand
I know I have small hands but c'mon. Flagship phones these days are strait up small tablets, not even what we'd have called on phablets 15 years ago.
I know it's what people buy, but I'm still sad that if I want a phone that small then I have to deal with camera and display a couple gens old
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Flagship means the best of the best, of course it’s gonna be large and fancy lmfao.
There’s plenty of phones that fit your niche, but it’s like expecting a cigar boat to be the flagship of the navy dude lol. Gotta temper yourself to realistic expectations, especially when the term “flagship” is thrown out.
This makes no sense. Large doesn't mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.
The minimal company's flagship phone is a minimal phone. It's their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.
OP wants more flagship phones, that is the type of phone the company markets as its main phone, to be smaller. It has little to do with the best but how phones are used. So tell him "tough luck because most people use their phones as a TV so they will remain big". It's not because that's a better phone.
This makes no sense. Large doesn't mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.
Which has nothing to do with the the historical term and already established convention of the term “flagship”, no one has ever called their compact phone a flagship, got any proof to back that asinine claim up?
The minimal company's flagship phone is a minimal phone. It's their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.
If it’s not the fanciest and most expensive, then by definition and original convention, it’s no longer a flagship phone.
Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions… a small phone will never by definition eve be considered a flagship, but bloviate if you want.
Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions
Ok there why didn't you bother opening a dictionary or googling it.
noun
the ship in a fleet which carries the commanding admiral.
the best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.
He's just saying most phones companies (of all sizes) are making are big phones. Get over yourself
More specifically, it's typically the vessel the admiral commands from, not just their one he happens to be on.
So the smallest and worst ship would be the flagship? That’s the defence? Lmfao because that makes total sense dude…. And how is that supposed to defend what a flagship is?
How does that mean the smallest and most compact? As my original comment stated, that’s like claiming a cigar boat is the flagship, which no navy would do even if they were making smaller boats. Their largest and fanciest, would STILL be the flagship of the fleet….
I “did read a dictionary”, which is maybe why I’m speaking? OP fucked up what a flagship is meant to be. Atleast I’m not the one making up new definitions to defend my asinine defence. How does the definition support your argument? It would STILL mean the best and most resourceful unit. Which wouldn’t be the smallest…..
the finest, largest, or most important one of a group of things (such as products, stores, etc.) —often used before another noun
Other definitions include “largest” why did you include the one that doesn’t…?
is the lead ship in a fleet of vessels, typically the first, largest, fastest, most heavily armed, or best known.
Which how is that the smallest and most compact…? That’s literally contradicting the established conventions dude lmfao. But again, bloviate about how you don’t understand language and want to make it what you want I guess…. Flagship has established conventions, and OP is asking for the opposite. Full stop.
Each fleet has its flagship, all companies have flagships. Yes the best phone of each company is their flagship. Flagship phones isn't limited to some arbitrary sized companies.
And no phone manufacturer has ever called their small phones their flagships, so for to OP to say they miss them, is them not actually knowing what the term is.
Can you provide an example of a phone that fits OPs definition as being sold as a “flagship”? Because OPs arguing for something that’s never been done before.
Flagships CAN be small, but it’s never been done in history before, still waiting for an example, I’ve asked twice now. Because OPs barking up the wrong tree. That’s the issue here.
You’re making this argument, while not providing anything to support it, I’ve even asked for a source to prove your point, all you’ve done is provide a definition that i then provided multiple that directly contradict the one you provided.
Flagship phones isn't limited to some arbitrary sized companies.
In the history of the term, it’s never been a cigar boat dude…. It’s always the largest and fanciest, not the smallest and fanciest. Prove it dude. Step up or fuck off.
Minimal company's flagship phone is the minimal phone
Lol who said I wanted "the smallest and most compact"
You've lost the plot here, take the L
Does “fit in your hand” not mean small and compact?
I’m not the one using the term flagship to mean a non flagship phone. You’re trying to change established definitions and conventions.
You want a fancy small phone, no phone manufacturer has ever called a phone that fits that description as a “flagship” so to say you miss the. Is just straight up bullshit and you being an idiot and not using established definitions correctly.
Not only is that laughably not true
But even if it was true, it wouldn't mean anything because being a flagship phone isn't about size, it's about showing off your tech.
But like I said, I don't have to get hypothetical, because phones this big weren't considered flagships in the past, they were considered "notes" and "tabs"
You aren't wrong, and I'm not sure why the other person is arguing with you. Seems like that Monty Python sketch about arguing.
He is wrong.
I'm asking for small flagships.
They used to make small flagships.Flagship doesn't mean biggest, it means best.
If settle for a small non-flagship phone with a flagship camera pod and display tech. But they don't make those either.
They used to make small flagships.
When??? You keep saying that, but flagships have always been large and fancy and never small and fancy. Can you provide an example? Because what it seems from every explanation you’ve made in this thread, you just don’t know what the term flagship means…
Sounds like you just need to learn words properly, the only one wrong here is you using an established term incorrectly and are conflating a small phone as a “flagship” which has NEVER been the case. Please provide an example of a flagship being small and compact, I would love to see how you came to fuck this well established term up so horrendously.
fuckup this well established term
dude just Google "flagship meaning"
the best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.
Theres a company called The minimal company, their best and most important product is a small "minimal phone". That's their flagship phone. It's not hard to understand
As I explained previously, you’re cherry picking definitions to support your point.
Multiple other definitions that I provided you contradict that, and just repeating and saying the same thing doesn’t suddenly make it true. Even with minimalist phone, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles, which is another important criteria and you’re choosing to ignore to make your asinine point.
A flagship has never been a cigar boat and that’s exactly what OP has clarified they wanted. So I was correct all along.
Let's compare the current day top dog, Galaxy S 25 ultra, against 5 flagships from different brands in 2012, including Samsung's own:
Some of these had bigger phones like the Galaxy note, but these were flagships for their brands. These were the poster boy devices each brand trotted out to show off their capabilities. These were flagships.
And this is just Android phones, I'm not even considering iPhone or windows phones.
So get fucking wrecked. When they made phones as big as modern day flagships 15 years ago, they didn't call them phones, they called them "notes" and "tabs"
These were the poster boy devices each brand trotted out to show off their capabilities. These were flagships.
Phones in general are bigger, in each of those examples, smaller models also exist. The flagship isn’t the SMALLEST model, which is what you’re wanting since they are just bigger.
So how does that support your point? Lmfao.
You just don’t know what the term flagship is supposed to mean and are conflating it with other stuff.
Thanks for pointing that out so well!
The flagship isn’t the SMALLEST model, which is what you’re wanting
I didn't say the flagship should be or was the smallest phone, nor did I say I wanted the smallest phone. that's something you imagined entirely on your own lol
Phones in general are bigger
It's almost like I'm sad that phone sizes got larger because now OEMs make their flagships uncomfortably large. Hey, someone should make a post complaining about that! 😑
What I'm learning here is that you had an argument with yourself, and lost
Best doesn't have to mean biggest.
I want all the fanciest best shit, and I want it to actually fit in my hand
So you don’t want a flagship, you want a small compact phone with all the fixings. That would no longer be the flagship anymore by using established conventions.
Flagship has specific meanings and you’re ignoring them to bitch and moan.
Lol everyone disagrees with you about what the conventional meaning is. It sounds a lot like you're the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋
??? Multiple people have told you the same thing…..
Sounds like you don’t want to admit that you fucked up.
It sounds a lot like you're the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋
Well sounds is a lot different than being factually incorrect and obtuse like you….
Lol you made up an argument, pretended I said it, and got mad when I corrected you.
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