Hi all!
What's your opinion?
Let's pretend reddit would give in to the protest and cancel the plan to increase the API pricing.
Would all of you go back to Reddit or stay on Lemmy?
I mean.. what has been said by the CEO cannot be unsaid now.
We all now know what we are in the eyes of the CEO.
I’m sticking with Lemmy because it’s picking up all the people smart enough to figure out how to use Lemmy, leaving all the morons that were making Reddit shit to begin with on Reddit. Huge win for my sanity.
The chances of Reddit backing way off of their current path are about zero. At a certain level, it's understandable: they're a giant platform on the web, but they're unprofitable - they'd like to actually make money, which I get. But their approaches and handling of it really leave me cold, and I've already been frustrated by the ever increasing amount of bot content.
My guess is Reddit will do just fine for the foreseeable future. This "mass exodus" is really just a blip for them; the majority of users don't care. But I'm enjoying it here, and I like the idea of helping a new, better discussion and aggregator site take hold. Maybe someday Lemmy will replace Reddit, or maybe something else will, but for now I'm just going to let Reddit be and enjoy the experience here.
Maybe if reddit didn't spend millions a year delivering images and videos through i.reddit and v.reddit instead of letting the perfectly viable 3rd party platforms continue to like they had 8+ years previously they wouldn't be bleeding money for quite literally no reason.
I also think Reddit is far from dead. The blackout will end and then Reddit still has many more users and thus much more content. That pull back people after a while.
I just hope this boost for the Fediverse brought it to a sustainable level until the next Reddit scandal. Maybe the IPO or whatever.
If they gave in on day one or two, I may have stuck around.
But as it stands, a week without Reddit has effectively broken my addiction. I've already uninstalled Sync from my phone, deleted my comments, and I only see Reddit pages when they show up as relevant search results.
So they could reverse direction tomorrow and I would be indifferent at best.
I won't go back. This is the final step in a long journey of enshittification - the Conde Nast sale, proliferation of power mods, the new UI redesign, subreddit ban waves, the Ellen Pao and Aimee Knight incidents etc.
I don't care much for reddit as a whole. Since I joined lemmy have I used my phone so many more hours per day that it is scary. I was only on reddit for a few minutes per day... So reddit is maybe better for my health 😂
The only sad thing is that the niches subs I liked didn't even seem to know about this whole thing and nobody seems to come over either...
So no I won't go back to reddit. But I am not as black and white either, for morals sake will I not use reddit until after July and after that may I check out my niched subs maybe once a week or less. But we will see maybe I don't even care to have a look when that time comes. Just like fb I just logg in to see i don't miss any major events maybe 4 times per year haha
If they gave into the protest AND gave a broader signal that they cared about their content creators and their volunteer mods in broader ways, then sure I'd go back. I'd probably keep exploring Lemmy, though, as I feel like big social media sites will inevitable devolve into whatever Facebook looks like.
I would be on both. I'm assuming that CEO isn't long for that position but we'll see. Reddit survives though. It's really a small mod protest with the majority of casual users not caring about it. However the scab mods that will end up being put in place will soon realize how hard this volunteer job is and may never know how the alt apps assisted so well with it. I think the best thing subs could do at this point is open up and let the spam fly TBH.
"Ending up like Facebook" is framed as a bad thing here, but it's an amazingly great outcome if you're a Reddit executive or investor. Facebook may have fallen out of favor among the kinds of people who post on Lemmy, but it is massively profitable and is either the #2 or #3 most visited site on the Internet depending on whether you count YouTube as part of Google. Reddit would love to fail like that!
I wouldn’t go back to reddit as a poster/commentator if they reversed their decision. But rather I would continue to use it as a resource, as I usually find typing in “<query> reddit” into Google to be far more useful and time saving than sifting through irrelevant search results and clickbait news articles for a simple question.
Nah, even if they reversed the bad changes they're making completely I still wouldn't go back. I'm over spez's attitude. Plus, reddit was toxic af--I'm excited to be exploring a new community instead.
Reddit will be absolutely fine but I don't see myself going back. I realized I only ever used it for a few things, mostly memes. I can get that here so I'm sticking it out and helping build something new
I think there's room for both. Lots of people don't care about all the API drama or about what the CEO says in interviews, and there are easily enough of those people to maintain critical mass. But I think Lemmy isn't far off from also having critical mass in enough communities to have some staying power.
I'm now checking Lemmy before I check reddit when I want my doom-scrolling fix. But I still visit Reddit, even if less often than I used to, because it still has some unique communities that don't have analogs anywhere else. For example, there is no fediverse equivalent of /r/AskHistorians (that I'm aware of).
I think I’m giving up on the wealth of content/knowledge that is in reddit, but I will basically stop using it. I might still google a question and add “reddit” at the end, but I won’t be on there for game subreddits or any other subreddit. I realize personally I can live without it, and the company’s actions have just really soured how I feel about reddit. I used to feel ambivalent about reddit, I just used it, but now I’m actually upset
It’s crazy because I would have never even thought I’d be unhappy with reddit until they pulled this. Im not a mod, I had no idea the back and forth that’s going on between between them and the company.
It feels wrong for the ceo to threaten mods that way to stop striking and then we all go back to reddit, nevermind that those mods will just mod without their tools on apollo. I just can’t feel good going back to the app, I would actually rather quit and go without the forums I liked
@Shizu The only thing that will keep Reddit alive, for now, is NSFW content until their next IPO.
Then investors gonna ask to do a "Tumblr" or an "OnlyFans" without knowing the platform that they're investing in.
That's what gonna kill it for the remaining users (normie ones).
Is just a matter of time they gonna do the stupid decision of remove porn in a website that relies in porn to survive.
I'll give less than a year to be in the digital grave.
Reddit has been getting worse over the past couple years, to the point that I've stopped browsing Reddit's front page altogether. Since Lemmy is scratching my forum itch just fine, I see no reason to go back except for the handful of my favorite communities which haven't migrated yet, and I see no reason to ever give them money again in the form of ads, Reddit Premium, awards, or my data from their mobile app. I don't really care what happens to Reddit anymore.
Reddit will survive. I'm a little tech savvy and even I have difficulties moving to alternatives. I think for most people, bad reddit is better than no reddit.
No. They'd just try something at a later point, but I think they'll just force it through anyway. Reddit has become absolute shit over the past 5 years or so. I was already hoping some sort of alternative would come along, so this is a very welcome event.
I would go back to Apollo if it was back. We all want them to make a change, and if they did then we should reward that change.
And it really looks as if they aren’t trying to pull the ol’ “let’s give you the crazy high price so you stomach a lower price” thing, so it would be a genuine retract and a win.
People will keep using Reddit until an easier alternative arises. Most people don't care about any of the benefits the fediverse offers, they just want a service that's easy to use and delivers content to them, that's it.
Even if they reverse direction on API changes, fired spez, and cancelled the upcoming IPO, RiF is still going away. They thoroughly burned the bridges with all 3pa devs. And that's the #1 reason I left. Simply because I can't use my preferred app to browse the site anymore.
I honestly think reddit will be perfectly fine. Unfortunately...
There's a type of pervasive apathy that's skyrocketed over the last 6-8 years throughout the internet and society. There's just too much to care about. The fact is it's easier to complain about your CEO or Admins than it is to find or build an alternate source just re-enforces the apathetic response to injustices.
It doesn't effect me, I don't agree but I'm not buying a sub, I'm only active on small communities, etc. It's easier to find excuses than to try to move away from a behemoth of content.
I think 95%+ of users will probably fall into this group. I know I did for years!
I personally will check reddit for what's going on in the world once or twice a week and use it for information but my decade+ of activity was over the day spez lied about Apollo.
I'll probably look back into using RSS too. Reddit really has gotten toxic and it's just going to continue getting worse. I'm out for my own mental health and I hope others are too.
I don't think much good is going to happen until they fire their CEO. Which would require that reddit suffer some significant losses, not something that's going to be accomplished in a week, but over much more time with increasing competition and content creators/managers moving out.
A chance...for me to still use it? Sure. I've always just had my list of niche subs, never used /all or /popular or whatever. It's fine. It's like french fries; not good for you yet appealing all the same. But it's great to have an alternative where the goal isn't "i want to be a complete antisocial goblin and spew hate everywhere".
Taking some time to learn about the Fediverse, it almost feels like an IRC network. Individual networked nodes cooperating with each other to facilitate communication. It's an old school idea with a very modern perspective. I love the idea and I hope it grows.
I think they’ll weather it. But once third party clients go there’s really nothing left to stop them going into full user-hostile monetisation mode. So next will be old Reddit, more ads, maybe the mobile site finally gets removed, nsfw banned, etc.
They’ll kill themselves in the process of trying to look profitable for an IPO.
Wasn't the main selling point of voat the "free speech" angle? It would make sense that it would attract people whose speech got them banned from other social media.
The Fediverse's selling point is "not run by corporate greed-heads," which is going to attract a different demographic.
Sure was. That was when Reddit banned r/fatpeoplehate and several other subs. I tried Voat out of curiosity but it definitely attracted a certain kind of person.
This time around I feel like the types of people that have and will leave Reddit are more ‘power users/techies’ whatever you want to call it. And so far this place seems pretty nice!
I have no loyalty to reddit and if there's one thing I realized in the past week, it's that I am completely fine not using it on a daily basis. If instances here continue being active (kudos to [email protected] for hosting their instance, promoting it on reddit and actively working to make it a nice cozy place here!) I have no reason to go back. I will miss smaller game subs, maybe go back sometimes to see them there but also do my best to support them here if they decide to move.