jonringer Continues to Cause Drama and Problems
jonringer Continues to Cause Drama and Problems
Hi, I haven’t read this thread and I don’t really care to read all of it. I’ve always intended to get back into the Nix community after the issues with community management are sorted to my satisfaction. If jonrigner gets his commit bit back, I’m gonna be gone for good. Create whatever future you...
cross-posted from: https://awful.systems/post/1746256
Nix project: ban? What ban?
They invited that guy back. I do have to admit, I admire his inability to read a room.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what is going on (but I'm not terribly involved). I can tease out that he was disruptive, but I cannot figure out in what manner he was so.
Still, this feels like a Grade-A old school Internet community meltdown from the early 90s.
Post title is misleading as he's not really the one causing the drama.
The mods gave him a 6-week suspension, and now it's up, so he requested his access back. Nothing unusual
The drama comes from people who just hate the guy and are screaming about letting him back. His response to that was then very cordial and just calling out them for being to aggressive.
I'm not taking a stance on whether his suspension should become a ban or whether he's gonna change or whatever; I'm just saying it's simply false to say he's continuing to cause the drama and problems when all he did was ask to get his commit access back and tell his haters they're being assholes
Post title is misleading as he’s not really the one causing the drama.
it’s simply false to say he’s continuing to cause the drama and problems when all he did was ask to get his commit access back ...
No. When he realised he wasn't immediately given access as he was asking for it he also made a post on the unmoderated reddit board with "Drama" in the title.
He inflamed drama during what should have been an otherwise fairly dull bureaucratic process, tried to hide his earlier posts, was called out on it with a timeline, then eventually half-admitted to creating drama.
... and tell his haters they’re being assholes
Engaging with haters is creating more drama, which makes more disruption, which makes more haters, repeat ad infinitum.
He just needed to ignore them and let the mods do their job, not make their job harder than it already was.
The drama comes from people who just hate the guy and are screaming about letting him back. His response to that was then very cordial and just calling out them for being to aggressive.
It definitely appeared cordial on his part, but the timelines of events comment showed he was cherrypicking and trying to change things after the fact. He was being deceitful and manipulative which of course made everything worse than it needed to be. He drove away more of the community.
All he needed to do was not be disruptive himself, let the mods sort out the initial haters, and let the boring topic of a commit bit be addressed.
I'm not super deep into that whole business. But did I get this right that this concerns Nixpkgs, which hasn't been forked yet?
There is a nix/nixos fork out there called auxolotl. Dunno how active it is. The forum hasn't seen significant activitiy in about a week. From what I gather the decision is to move away from github and a monorepo like nixpkgs. They are now on their own forgejo instance.
Good grief, that community is toxic. Looks like some people are quitting over it. I'm curious where they'll go to. They could move on to the Auxolotl fork, but hopefully it won't be the toxic people joining that fork.
Fr even some of the first few comments are totally unhinged