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Defund israel all you want. But leave Ukraine funding alone, they're defending their land against russian invaders and deserve our support.
SLAVA UKRAINE!
this is how a lot of "conservatives" feel but reversed... instead we don't want to see either of these wars publicly funded while America's resources are strained...
Oh, you speak for conservatives huh?
Then wake up: the vote for Ukraine aid was damn near down the middle. Once again, you don't even know what your own party wants. And the american people, who they're supposed REPRESENT, you know, as REPRESENTATIVES, feels overwhelmingly that the US should aid Ukraine.
SO I think you should say: half of my party voted against aiding Ukraine, but the other half voted for it. Because THAT HALF AREN'T SIMPING FOR PUTIN.
As a footnote, I find this "don’t want to see either of these wars publicly funded" - hilarious. Fuck that bullshit. Conservatives dragged the nation to war with Iraq over specious, ridiculous bullshit, and you want to suddenly espouse this? Constrained resources? Bush dragged us into Iraq while we were still hunting Bin Laden.
Your hypocrisy and self ignorance are boundless.
You need an internet break. Please calm down
jawol mein modscheiss!
Don't bring Deutschland into this
Aren't you getting a bit emotional about this? Please calm down.
Please calm down from telling me to calm down
half of my party voted against aiding Ukraine
Yes, that is our half, the conservatives
you want to suddenly espouse this?
We have been espousing this consistently since (and against) Iraq, it is the policy of non-interventionism. The neo-"conservatives" are the ones who want the aggressive wars and to be "world police"
Ah like the isolationists in 1940, yeah, that's a great look.
yeah, somehow you're even worse.
I don't think warmongering is a better look, or that WW2 couldn't have been resolved contrary to non-interventionist policy, as it was the dominant U.S. policy up until that time: https://infogalactic.com/info/United_States_non-interventionism
Supporting Ukrainian freedom to prevent Europe spiraling into WW3 isn't war mongering.
Do you think possibly waging war by the U.S. being involved with Ukraine would make WW3 more likely? That's what a lot of people think contrarily
I think it makes it less likely. If the Kremlin is stopped in Ukraine it makes it unlikely they'll continue their aggression.
The comparison many people make to Czechoslovakia in 1939 is appropriate.
I think you are a pogue who's willing to sell women and children to Putin if it makes your life a tiny bit simpler.
Despicable.
America's funds going to Ukraine wouldn't be straining our resources if we also defunded our own wars against various nations who haven't done anything to us.
true... defund them all!
I honestly think the worst thing for the Ukraine right now is more funds to fight a war that they basically cannot win.
It's completely lost.
They need to negotiate for a peace - not pour $61 billion trying to arm those unwilling to fight who are hiding and shirking from responsibility, sending them headlong into meat grinders to go and fight for the Donbass....
The Donbass which arguably didn't want to be part of Ukraine 3 years ago, and which definitely is a wartorn hellhole right now that has become the de facto home for Ukrainians who fled there that were against the Kiev government.
It's a really wild situation, pal, and prolonging this war will only bring countless more dead.
Russia is not getting pushed out.
Russia is not getting pushed out.
they're literally filling ditches with meat and fields with dead soviet retreads. russia is getting it's shit pushed in bud. Russia has lost over 3500 officers in just a couple of years. Russia is going to get kicked out of Ukraine, Crimea and maybe even Georgia, bet.
Yeah, sure, bud: the situation is so bright that the local Ukrainians are attacking the recruiters that come to their regions because they don't want to see more of their men forcibly conscripted and sent to die.
These aren't unique videos, either: every few days there's a new video of what's going on with recruiters in Ukraine.
This is also exactly why Russia fights the war in this way: attrition is their best friend, especially now, even more tomorrow, and as the months drag on, it becomes more desperate.
LOL, ok, well guess what chudly, the russians are having recruiting problems too lol:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-intercepts/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/03/russia-ukraine-spies-extortion-traitors/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-recruiting-more-foreign-mercenaries-ukraine-war-kyiv-1879857
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68366861
https://ca.style.yahoo.com/russia-recruit-foreigners-neighboring-countries-202204529.html
Are these the actions of a country winning it's war?
They invaded their neighbor fuckwit, I'm done debating, but gonna go donate to shell purchases - will put the donations in your name!