Linux @lemmy.ml Varen @kbin.social 5mo ago

got told to crosspost over here to reach more people:

https://kbin.social/m/linuxquestions/p/4631784

I don't know if and how crossposting functions in kbin/lemmy, so hopefully it'll work that way

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https://asus-linux.org/ seems to have some guides and tutorials.

Generally:

Turn off Safe Boot and features that inhibit booting other operating systems and USB media in your BIOS.

Get the installer running. Try the failsafe and fallback video mode options. Try different distributions next.

Tackle one problem at a time. Google it. Add your hardware in question ("Asus Strix G15") and error message or exact issue ("black screen") to your query.

Get the OS installed and then again do one thing at a time. Get it running first, maybe kernel options again help. Then the proprietary NVidia drivers, then the keyboard illumination and other less important stuff.

If it's running somewhat alright and you're sure you're going to keep it, you can start moving your stuff there and installing applications.

You're somewhat likely to find answers to single issues by googling. Unless the hardware is really new, someone else has faced that issue before. For lots of manufacturers and common hardware, there are dedicated guides, wikis and forums. Try to find those and you might get a step-by-step instruction to get it running. Otherwise you have to isolate single problems by some means to be able to tackle them. This is difficult, especially if there are multiple issues at the same time. But that's why I recommend focusing on one problem at a time and googling it with the most specific query you can come up with.

I'm sorry that your hardware is so difficult to get running. The acpi=off could be a hint. But you have to figure out what exactly is causing the issue. Turning all ACPI off isn't something you want. Maybe you could try installing it this way and see if it's just the installer. Maybe the installed distro (after an update) does better. And choose a recent one with a recent kernel, in case the problem got solved in a recent kernel version.
- @rufus
  
  thanks for taking the time. I already asked over at the asus-linux discord about the issue but got no reactions up until now.
  
  Turn off Safe Boot and features that inhibit booting other operating systems and USB media in your BIOS.
  
  did already, unfortunately not working
  
  Get the installer running. Try the failsafe and fallback video mode options.
  
  all installers (except nobara) do fail when trying to get the bootloader installed, since efibootmgr seems to be in need of the acpi options and I don't get it running with acpi option on.
  
  Tackle one problem at a time. Google it. Add your hardware in question (“Asus Strix G15”) and error message or exact issue (“black screen”) to your query.
  
  that's exactly what I'm trying to do, first and most important (from my understanding) would be to get the OS booted from the USB with acpi on. I am going through google/DDG/qwant/whatever-search-engine to look it up and tried everything I was able to find in relation to my Hardware, but wasn't able to tackle the issue up until now, that's why I'm asking for help all over the reddits/lemmys/kbins/discords...
  
  I can get Nobara - and only Nobara - installed so I can boot without USB, but there as well only with acpi off.
  
  I tried with Fedora, Nobara, ubuntu LTS, pop!_os, GarudaOS, silverblue, Mint, with everyone having the issue not being able to boot without acpi=off and getting to a black screen and USBs (seem) powered off right after choosing the OS in grub.
  
  appreciate your time replying, thank you.
  
  Alright. You should also play with the options for the framebuffer, drm and video modes or forcefully enable some outputs. (I forgot how to do all of that.)
  
  nvidia-drm.modeset ...
  
  video="vesafb"
  
  ...
  
  I'd skip the general acpi=off since that only causes more issues and isn't feasable in the long run anyways. You need to find the option that specifically fixes only the issue with that one component that isn't working correctly.
  
  Another idea: Maybe you can find the error message. Can you perhaps login via SSH from another machine? This would allow you to run dmesg while your screen is black. Maybe the error shows up in the dmesg kernel messages and you can take it from there. (Some installers even allow login from remote, that is a bit tricky but should be documented somewhere with the distro.)
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- @anamethatisnt
  Thanks for helping out, kbin kind of doesn‘t have the option but the functionality 🤷🏻‍♂️
Unfortunately i can't help you, but just to be sure, have you downloaded the -nvidia version of the ISO? In case, check it out

Also try not to daily run with acpi=off, especially on a laptop, as it won't be very power efficient
- @orsetto
  it's not a laptop, it's a desktop.
  Yes, I did download the -nvidia versions, didn't do the trick and daily run it with acpi=off is no option since many things don't work anyways with that setting
Try this ? https://old.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/vnaxrq/nvidia_geforce_rtx_3070_on_arch_linux/ie934i5/

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet nouveau.modeset=0 ibt=off"
- @lemmyreader
  
  tried just right now. I get „booting a command list“ and nothing more, stays like that and USB Devices seem to be off.
  
  Okay, too bad, thanks for trying. Nvidia apparently is a pain with Linux currently. Years ago it was the opposite, people were told to go for Nvidia.
  
  With Ventoy https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html you can put lots of Linux iso images on one usb stick which can save you some time. For example try OpenSuse https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers
I have a g15 from the same year (3060) asus linux website is the way,they have a discord too
- yeah ... as you can see in one of my other comments, I already joined the asus-linux discord and asked the "same" question (really, nearly with the exact same words...) and got , unfortunately, absolutely no reaction to it (besides on comment about "you need to disable the nouveau driver")...
  
  I will try to help you troubleahoot it when I am free
  
  Lots of people to the time to reply here and at kbin.
  
  It probably will not hurt to also ask on https://superuser.com/ https://stackexchange.com/ and Reddit linuxquestions or another appropriate subreddit. To me it seems like Discord is similar like IRC : questions will get snowed under after others write newer things and your reading audience is likely decreasing.
  
  And a question : What are your plans with Linux on your desktop ?
  
  Gaming ?
  
  Coding ?
  
  Reading books and watching videos ?
  
  Web surfing ?
  
  Social media ?
  
  If you are interested in learning more Linux then a refurbished laptop is a good start to run Linux natively without a dual boot.

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