Hmm, seems like the way to conform with this - is to post clear instructions on how to open a lemmy account and access the relevant community here instead - then the community will really belong to themselves, right?
(If a move to lemmy is going to work, we need to make sure that clear instructions are provided, and there is an easy map of existing subreddits over to new lemmy communities/channels.
Saw a link to lemmy.world on reddit, went to it, clicked 'sign up', filled in my info and waited for an email. I don't get why people think it's difficult. It's literally the same as any other website. Reddit's astroturfing hard on how 'hard' lemmy is to use.
Once you've chosen an instance, yeah, it's dead simple.
I think the emphasis on users choosing the instances that best fits them, and discouraging people from going onto larger instances is where all the confusion comes from. Add to this the fact that there's no way (yet?) to migrate between instances (without starting over again as a new user) puts a whole lot of pressure onto prospective new users.
I think most of them are being honest. When many people are confronted with a new piece of information something they don't know they just glaze over.
It's just like Reddit except there are a bunch of different servers and it's powered by the fediverse. That's it right there their first inclination is f*** that s*** I'm out. Somebody said it's got something in it that I don't understand so I don't understand it as a whole.
We need a message displayed to critical junctions. On the front page of any unlogged in site or maybe the front page of the sign up explain to them that there are lots and lots of sites you can use to sign up They can all see the same data you can all subscribe to the same subs. And then another message when you go to post a comment that searches for any community links and gives you a suggestion on how to change them to work from any server. That's it If you put any more out there than that they're just going to shut down on you say it's too difficult too complicated.
I think the only thing that's really missing is the whole subscribing to another instances sublemmies. Clicking a link here and being taken to another server and told to log in on a site for which we have no login as our Achilles heel at the moment.
But it's not that unlike going to new subreddits on Reddit used to be where you had to know /r/whatever now it's /c/[email protected]
The best way to think about lemmy / kbin is that instead of a client / server model, where we have one facebook, one twitter, one reddit, we have one website that can view facebook / twitter / reddit all at the same time. They share, in this case, we can go to reddit and view facebook / twitter as well. So if facebook's /askreddit is better than twitter's /askreddit, we can view facebook's /askreddit on reddit and interact with facebook's /askreddit on reddit.
The great thing is that if server A has the best news content, server B has the best music content, and server C has the best porn content, we can be on server D and subscribe to all 3, and interact with all 3 seamlessly. And if we don't like the admin on server B, we can move the community to server E.
The hardest part is finding the best communities, since the are spread out everywhere, but once you find out about https://lemmyverse.net , it isn't so bad.