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I want to know how you figure fake democracy substitute qualifies as "the strongest path forward to a better system."
It's our current system.
What is a stronger and more viable path forward in your opinion?
It’s our current system.
Yes, the one you just learned happily funds genocide - just like it has for more than a hundred years now.
What is a stronger and more viable path forward in your opinion?
You mean... apart from something that can be called democratic with a straight face?
Yes, all true. How do we realistically move forward? Out of a liberal democracy into a better form. Without making conditions worse for people.
Without making conditions worse for people.
Did you happen to notice what Palestinians had to recently go through just to make people in the US's blinkers fall off?
There are no magic wands that will make this happen without things getting much, much worse. Of course, that doesn't mean things won't get much, much worse anyway.
Heartbreakingly, they will continue to go through it. No one will be better off with the current administration.
I suppose by your logic we have to go through fascism to achieve something better than liberal democracy. I just don't think it's better to go through fascism or necessary to achieve the larger goal.
I still believe it's the only logical step forward into a socialist society.
I just don’t think it’s better to go through fascism
Accept the liberal carrot and you won't get the fascist stick. If the carrot is rotton to the core, just pretend it isn't. Easy, no?
I honestly don't know how to engage with what you've just said.
Are you not satisfied with the completely predictable spoils of liberalism? The rich gets richer, the poor gets poorer - and the only thing liberals will tell you to do about it is to vote for them in the next election ad nauseum.
The capitalist order only allows you to engage in two seemingly contradictory but, in reality, complementary, ideologies - liberalism and fascism. That is how it protects itself from you.
Inside this paradigm, no actual fundamental change is possible - it is only the measures that the status quo takes to protect itself from threats (ie, you) that really changes. Sometimes, when you're lucky, this measure might take the form of Keynesian economics - such as the New Deal, for instance. Sometimes, it's a brutal fascist regime. It all depends on what is most convenient to the status quo under given conditions.
You can tell which you are getting by seeing how good the carrot is.
Thank you for clarifying what you meant. I agree with all of it, especially that we are inside this paradigm.
Yet my question still feels unanswered. The carrot, if I'm understanding correctly, is liberal democracy. We (from the perspective of the capital class) are the pigs threatening to eat the carrot.
Using your analogy, how would we achieve a less exploitative relationship with the capital class?